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Old 01-16-2014, 10:55 AM   #406
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How do you know it's a winner? How big a market do you think there is for a $1000+ monochrome device?
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Old 01-16-2014, 11:14 AM   #407
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I know this has been said before, but IS SONY REALLY NUTS?

They have a winner in their hands and they do not release it to the general public. I simply do not understand it.
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...&postcount=375

But I won't be suprised if its wide-spread release is also postponed till august like Pocketbook CAD's.

Besides, it is questionable if they can get enough screens at this moment, since Plastic Logic's flexible screens will also, most probably, not be around in greater quantities in e-readers this year.

http://www.plasticlogic.com

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I'm still hoping these chaps come to the party for me and let me purchase one of their controller cards and then a 13.3" eInk display... I'll be set then!

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I'm still hoping these chaps come to the party for me and let me purchase one of their controller cards and then a 13.3" eInk display... I'll be set then!

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1pc PVI 9.7" E-INK panel (ED097OC4), resolution: 1200x825.
the controller is for the same display as used in the onyx m92 which is outdated. the controller will only work for that resolution and that kind of display(or the 6" or 8" they offer), there is no cross compability

I think sony isnt releasing this because of high production costs and low yields. maybe its just not ready to be mass produced in large numbers

Did anyone buy it yet on rakuten?? joblack?
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Really have to come up with something. Very frustrating having a solution "so close" yet so far for dealing with my wife's vision issues
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the controller is for the same display as used in the onyx m92 which is outdated. the controller will only work for that resolution and that kind of display(or the 6" or 8" they offer), there is no cross compability

I think sony isnt releasing this because of high production costs and low yields. maybe its just not ready to be mass produced in large numbers

Did anyone buy it yet on rakuten?? joblack?

Where do you get that info? On their Indiegogo they explicitly state:
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RockthEink will support 7inch TFT/LCD and different E-INK panels like 6, 8, 9.7, 13.3 inch 16grey level as well as 8inch color E-INK (Triton).
Then again, they didn't reach their funding goal, so I don't know if their project is going to happen.
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Where do you get that info? On their Indiegogo they explicitly state:


Then again, they didn't reach their funding goal, so I don't know if their project is going to happen.

The design is already done, the $5k was for a production run. If I had the money I'd have paid that to them outright just to get my hands on it.
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How do you know it's a winner?
IMHO:
1. Excellent design
2. Very nice UI - judged from the video reviews
3. The first e-reader where a 'busy' A4 page (as in double column scientific articles) can comfortably be read
4. Touch screen + Stylus use

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How big a market do you think there is for a $1000+ monochrome device?
Worldwide a big one. It only needs a big company that can make the ereader known to the wide public - otherwise it will stay a niche product, like the M92, which will be known only by geeks, who happen to spend their time in forums like mobileread

Of course my argument would be easier to defend if they did sell it at a lower price point.
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1. Excellent design
2. Very nice UI - judged from the video reviews
3. The first e-reader where a 'busy' A4 page (as in double column scientific articles) can comfortably be read
4. Touch screen + Stylus use


Worldwide a big one. It only needs a big company that can make the ereader known to the wide public - otherwise it will stay a niche product, like the M92, which will be known only by geeks, who happen to spend their time in forums like mobileread

Of course my argument would be easier to defend if they did sell it at a lower price point.
It also weighs more than a smaller reader and it is more expensive than a smaller reader.

There were far fewer people interested in a 9.7" reader than there were interested in a 6" reader.
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It also weighs more than a smaller reader and it is more expensive than a smaller reader.

There were far fewer people interested in a 9.7" reader than there were interested in a 6" reader.
It's true, but the 9.7" was always a bit of an odd size, as it was still not big enough for people wanting to read A4/Letter documents, and it doesn't offer enough of a gain over the 6~7" display for novel readers. In effect it niched itself between the mainstream and the 1:1/100% reader niche.
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There were far fewer people interested in a 9.7" reader than there were interested in a 6" reader.
The 10.2" DR1000 didn't do too well either IIRC.
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Sony defines the device as "digital paper" not a Reader. The idea is truly to make it a digital notebook. If I worked as a proof reader for a publishing house (or freelance) this would be my device of choice. Get the manuscript as a PDF and attack it in the same manner you would a paper manuscript.
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It's true, but the 9.7" was always a bit of an odd size, as it was still not big enough for people wanting to read A4/Letter documents, and it doesn't offer enough of a gain over the 6~7" display for novel readers. In effect it niched itself between the mainstream and the 1:1/100% reader niche.
I can read A4 comfortably on my 9.7" reader, and if I don't want to zoom, I can rotate the device. It is better for novels when I am at home because I use bigger font sizes. But people looked at the price and weight differences and decided that 6" are enough.
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I can read A4 comfortably on my 9.7" reader, and if I don't want to zoom, I can rotate the device. It is better for novels when I am at home because I use bigger font sizes. But people looked at the price and weight differences and decided that 6" are enough.
Exactly, for a novel reader, they are. For people wanting to read schematics and datasheets ( my own business uses for electronics engineering ), and for wanting to create an eInk display for wordprocessing ( for my wife ), the 13.3" is where it starts.
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Exactly, for a novel reader, they are. For people wanting to read schematics and datasheets ( my own business uses for electronics engineering ), and for wanting to create an eInk display for wordprocessing ( for my wife ), the 13.3" is where it starts.
I too want an e-ink display for wordprocessing, but the Sony doesn't support external input outside the included stylus.
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