|  01-09-2014, 09:49 AM | #1 | 
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				"Barnes & Noble holiday sales drop on Nook slump"
			  "Nook segment sales in the nine weeks ended Dec. 28 fell 61%, including a 67% slump in device and accessories sales. Digital content sales were down 27%." http://www.marketwatch.com/story/bar...%20MarketPulse) Last edited by pdurrant; 01-10-2014 at 06:49 AM. | 
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|  01-09-2014, 11:15 AM | #2 | 
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			Ouch. 27% drop in digital sales... Store sales flat (before inflation) despite all the toys and trinket sales. CATCH 22 dept: last xmas, Nook tanked because "nobody" bought their new tablets, this year because they *didn't* have new tablets. | 
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|  01-09-2014, 11:55 AM | #3 | 
| monkey on the fringe            Posts: 45,851 Karma: 158733736 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Seattle Metro Device: Moto E6, Echo Show | 
			
			I see someone waiting in the wings     | 
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|  01-09-2014, 12:44 PM | #4 | |
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			CNET'S take: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-576...ay-nook-sales/ Quote: 
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|  01-09-2014, 02:25 PM | #5 | 
| Is that a sandwich?            Posts: 8,313 Karma: 103930826 Join Date: Jun 2010 Device: Nook Glowlight Plus | 
			
			We can do some estimates using these figures. $125-36.5 = $88.5 million in device and accessories. $36.5 million in content = $579,365 per day in sales (or about 100,000 books a day). I suspect there are still a lot of unused gift cards out there. Perhaps, January numbers will be good. | 
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|  01-09-2014, 02:37 PM | #6 | 
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|  01-09-2014, 04:23 PM | #7 | 
| DRM hater            Posts: 945 Karma: 2066176 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Michigan Device: Nook ST glow, Kindle Voyage | 
			
			The weird thing is, as a tech geek, I think the Nook HD+ and the Nook HD are both very good tablets.   And personally I vastly prefer my Nook ST with glowlight over the wife's Kindle Paperwhite. The Nook HD+, especially, at $120-$150, has to be the best bang/buck large tablet. Hi-rez screen, decent CPU/RAM, nice hardware. And unlike the other the other cheap competitor, the Kindle Fires, they have the Google Play Store. All I can figure is that they're being drowned by Amazon's dominance of the ebook landscape. | 
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|  01-09-2014, 04:33 PM | #8 | |
| Wizard            Posts: 1,451 Karma: 1550000 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Maryland, USA Device: Nook Simple Touch, HPC Evo 4G LTE | Quote: 
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|  01-09-2014, 05:24 PM | #9 | |
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 It's not as if Amazon is comparing their hardware to Nook's or going out of their way to undercut their ebooks. Last edited by fjtorres; 01-09-2014 at 05:28 PM. | |
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|  01-09-2014, 07:04 PM | #10 | 
| You kids get off my lawn!            Posts: 4,220 Karma: 73492664 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Columbus, Ohio Device: Oasis 2 and Libra H2O and half a dozen older models I can't let go of | 
			
			I'd add that all those wonderful Kobo coupon codes made it a whole lot easier to shop there than B&N.com.
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|  01-09-2014, 07:39 PM | #11 | |
| Fanatic            Posts: 513 Karma: 2644386 Join Date: Apr 2012 Device: iPhone, Kindle Touch | Quote: 
 If I am wrong about the Nooks, then it's partially my fault for not keeping up, and partially BN's fault for inadequate marketing. | |
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|  01-09-2014, 07:56 PM | #12 | 
| Bookaholic            Posts: 14,391 Karma: 54969924 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Minnesota Device: iPad Mini 4, AuraHD, iPhone XR + | 
			
			I'd agree, price wise it's hard to beat and I've recommended it to quite a few people. That said I have both the HD+ and the Fire HDX 8.9 and prefer the HDX hands down, even though I had to "sideload" a few apps (Moon+ Pro, Mantano, Vudu, Kobo) that I wouldn't have had to with the HD+.
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|  01-09-2014, 10:27 PM | #13 | 
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			Their stupid Christmas commercial didn't help. Last edited by Xanthe; 01-09-2014 at 10:30 PM. | 
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|  01-09-2014, 10:34 PM | #14 | 
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|  01-09-2014, 11:14 PM | #15 | 
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			Those commercials were enough to turn me off their devices and store forever. Setting that aside: here's the thing. I can hunk of four reasons off the top of my head why I don't recommend the Nook versus the Kindle. 1. Sideloading--the Nook, as I understand it, limits the number of non BN purchased books that can be loaded. DRM with the intent to lock you into a system is annoying enough, but seriously, keeping you from loading your own content is an automatic "do not buy" as far as I'm concerned. 2. is a corollary to number 1.--BN's pricing is very often higher than Amazon's, sometimes by quite a bit. I received a gift card to BN this year, and decided to use it to finish purchasing a series I'd started buying at Amazon. Every single book in the series is $2 more when purchased from BN. With five books in the series, that's $10 just wasted--easily the cost of another book or two. Owning a Nook is means your content is more expensive than Kobo (which offers discount codes) or Kindle. 3. Durability--this one is based on a small sample size, but everyone I personally know who has owned a Nook of any model has seen that device fail after what I'd consider a pretty short lifespan. One friend in particular went through three in three years, while I was still reading on my original Kindle 2. I upgraded out of choice, she did it because she had to. (She's since given up & reads on an iPad; as such, she no longer buys books from BN either.) 4. is the straw that breaks the camel's back: the stories like the one at the start of this thread. I have ZERO faith that BN will continue selling the Nook, and only marginally more faith that they'll stay in the ebook business. Given all this, why would anyone recommend going with a Nook versus Kobo or Kindle? It just makes zero sense. But it's sad to see. I spent many an hour in Barnes and Noble in my pre-ebook days, and I hate to think of it going out of business at some point. | 
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