Goodreads integration UK - I want my money back

[fearindex]

Originally Posted by HarryT

All (except Japanese) PWs are the same - no such thing as a US or EU model. The only difference in US PWs is the option of buying with Special Offers, which is not offered elsewhere. The difference in capabilities is purely down to the account that it's registered to Amazon with.

Yes, that is probably true once they stopped making local wireless variants. I have seen some differences in serial number ranges, but those are probably just inventory management issues.

Anyway, I agree this seems to be a account/back-end issue. Someone adventurous with a UK Kindle PW2 5.4.2, register it with an Amazon.com account and try.

[aceflor]

Originally Posted by fearindex

Yes, that is probably true once they stopped making local wireless variants. I have seen some differences in serial number ranges, but those are probably just inventory management issues.

Anyway, I agree this seems to be a account/back-end issue. Someone adventurous with a UK Kindle PW2 5.4.2, register it with an Amazon.com account and try.

As Harry said, they are all the same. If I de-register my PW2 from my european account and re-register it to my amazon.com, I get Goodreads. If I switch back to my european (German for now) account, Goodreads disappear. It is as simple as that.

[fearindex]

Originally Posted by aceflor

As Harry said, they are all the same. If I de-register my PW2 from my european account and re-register it to my amazon.com, I get Goodreads. If I switch back to my european (German for now) account, Goodreads disappear. It is as simple as that.

Thank you.

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by aceflor

As Harry said, they are all the same. If I de-register my PW2 from my european account and re-register it to my amazon.com, I get Goodreads. If I switch back to my european (German for now) account, Goodreads disappear. It is as simple as that.

Thanks for the confirmation. Always good to have a practical test of these things, regardless of what "theory" says should be the case.

[tono1020]

Originally Posted by aceflor

As Harry said, they are all the same. If I de-register my PW2 from my european account and re-register it to my amazon.com, I get Goodreads. If I switch back to my european (German for now) account, Goodreads disappear. It is as simple as that.

I bought PW2 in Germany (amazon.de) and registered it with Slovenian account. When I upgraded to 5.4.2 Goodreads icon appeared in toolbar. So this is not US only feature.

[aceflor]

Originally Posted by tono1020

I bought PW2 in Germany (amazon.de) and registered it with Slovenian account. When I upgraded to 5.4.2 Goodreads icon appeared in toolbar. So this is not US only feature.

A slovenian per se account does not exist, you are then registered on a international account (any country that does not have its own shop gets international accounts), thus on amazon.com, which basically is a US account.

[tono1020]

Originally Posted by aceflor

A slovenian per se account does not exist, you are then registered on a international account (any country that does not have its own shop gets international accounts), thus on amazon.com, which basically is a US account.

Yes, that's right. My account is international and the country is set to Slovenia. But with that account I can log-in to amazon.de, amazon.com and amazon.co.uk. I bought stuff from all these sites before with that same account. So I assumed there is no such as "local" and "international" account, just the country where you live. But maybe I am wrong.
I just want to let you know that I got Goodreads integration even though I live in EU and bought PW2 in amazon.de. If that's any help for you...

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by tono1020

Yes, that's right. My account is international and the country is set to Slovenia. But with that account I can log-in to amazon.de, amazon.com and amazon.co.uk. I bought stuff from all these sites before with that same account. So I assumed there is no such as "local" and "international" account, just the country where you live. But maybe I am wrong.
I just want to let you know that I got Goodreads integration even though I live in EU and bought PW2 in amazon.de. If that's any help for you...

That's because you live in a country which doesn't have its own national Amazon store. Those of us who live in the UK, France, Germany, etc, where there is a local Amazon store, do not currently have Goodreads integration.

[tono1020]

Originally Posted by HarryT

That's because you live in a country which doesn't have its own national Amazon store. Those of us who live in the UK, France, Germany, etc, where there is a local Amazon store, do not currently have Goodreads integration.

I understand that, but I don't see any sense in such restriction
Btw, integration with Goodreads is poor anyway...

[aceflor]

Originally Posted by tono1020

Yes, that's right. My account is international and the country is set to Slovenia. But with that account I can log-in to amazon.de, amazon.com and amazon.co.uk. I bought stuff from all these sites before with that same account. So I assumed there is no such as "local" and "international" account, just the country where you live. But maybe I am wrong.
I just want to let you know that I got Goodreads integration even though I live in EU and bought PW2 in amazon.de. If that's any help for you...

You can buy "stuff" from anywhere from any amazon.xx account. What you can't buy on any amazon.xx account are ebooks and apps. You can only buy them from your amazon.com account.

Or have you bought ebooks specifically from amazon.de without changing your country details in your kindle account ? That would be totally new...

And I agree with you, goodreads integration is crappy.

[fearindex]

tono1020: It is helpful to get further confirmation that buying the device from Amazon.de doesn't in any way tie it to DE accounts. Thank you for that.

As for the local Kindle stores, I too believe aceflor is right. While you can use any Amazon account to login to local Amazon stores and buy from them (within possible shipping restrictions) anywhere, Kindle content is handled differently. Amazon.com is the Kindle provider for most of their circa 150 countries they support - there may be some "shipping" restrictions even in this case, but the account is basically a U.S. account, to which additional country info is added that may limit some regional content, but is basically a U.S. account.

UK and Germany (and some others) have local Kindle stores for local markets in addition to this on Amazon.co.uk and Amazon.de respectively. There you are actually shopping with, e.g. Amazon.de for the Kindle content, but you can do this with only and Amazon.de account, a Kindle registered to Amazon.de - and I believe you are allowed (whatever that means) to use Amazon.de account only for Kindle content from those countries supported by Amazon.de for Kindle content (German speaking markets?). There was a case where a UK Kindle owner got into trouble with Amazon after moving to Norway, or something like that, and continuing to use the UK store (instead of the U.S. international store).

So, while Amazon's local stores are quite universal, their local Kindle content stores are local - with the exception of the U.S. store that serves (almost) globally.

[tono1020]

Originally Posted by aceflor

You can buy "stuff" from anywhere from any amazon.xx account. What you can't buy on any amazon.xx account are ebooks and apps. You can only buy them from your amazon.com account.

Or have you bought ebooks specifically from amazon.de without changing your country details in your kindle account ? That would be totally new...

And I agree with you, goodreads integration is crappy.

No, all eBooks I bought was from amazon.com.
But there is one strange thing: in "Your Kindle Library" on amazon.de I can see books purchased from amazon.com until 2010. Books bought after that is not in the list. On amazon.com I can see all books I purchased, before and after 2010. Maybe they change account management somehow.
Manage you Kindle page is visible only on amazon.com, even though I bought 3 of my kindles from amazon.de. So you and fearindex are right: it is associated with "Current Country" setting.

[tono1020]

Originally Posted by fearindex

tono1020: It is helpful to get further confirmation that buying the device from Amazon.de doesn't in any way tie it to DE accounts. Thank you for that.

As for the local Kindle stores, I too believe aceflor is right. While you can use any Amazon account to login to local Amazon stores and buy from them (within possible shipping restrictions) anywhere, Kindle content is handled differently. Amazon.com is the Kindle provider for most of their circa 150 countries they support - there may be some "shipping" restrictions even in this case, but the account is basically a U.S. account, to which additional country info is added that may limit some regional content, but is basically a U.S. account.

UK and Germany (and some others) have local Kindle stores for local markets in addition to this on Amazon.co.uk and Amazon.de respectively. There you are actually shopping with, e.g. Amazon.de for the Kindle content, but you can do this with only and Amazon.de account, a Kindle registered to Amazon.de - and I believe you are allowed (whatever that means) to use Amazon.de account only for Kindle content from those countries supported by Amazon.de for Kindle content (German speaking markets?). There was a case where a UK Kindle owner got into trouble with Amazon after moving to Norway, or something like that, and continuing to use the UK store (instead of the U.S. international store).

So, while Amazon's local stores are quite universal, their local Kindle content stores are local - with the exception of the U.S. store that serves (almost) globally.

Thanks for the detailed explanation.

[joangolfing]

I just got Goodreads on the latest update for PW 5.4.2. What is it that everyone likes about Goodreads. I can't seem to find anything except the book ratings and friends who share their book recommendations with others. Does it do anything else in organization than the PW can do by itself in the Cloud collections?

Originally Posted by joangolfing

I just got Goodreads on the latest update for PW 5.4.2. What is it that everyone likes about Goodreads. I can't seem to find anything except the book ratings and friends who share their book recommendations with others. Does it do anything else in organization than the PW can do by itself in the Cloud collections?

Not much. It seems that most of us who have posted about the GoodReads integration into the PW2 think it is lackluster and not worth having. GoodReads itself is good, just not the PW2 integration.