The Rumored iPhablets Expected In 2014 Will Not Save Apple's Bacon

[Sil_liS]

Originally Posted by forsooth

Normal thought: Good chart reduce dissension.

Not so, it seems.

The quality of various charts was questioned.

[frahse]

Originally Posted by Sil_liS

The quality of various charts was questioned.

The Heretics that produced said charts were questioned vigorously and then "boiled."

[ilovejedd]

Originally Posted by pl001

The "non-premium" phones are where most of the remaining market is. Phone fanboys of all types tend to dismiss these phones as junk and they would have been correct a couple years ago. But that is not the case today. For example, the Moto G and Nokia 520 are truly good phones offering a good user experience and are fully capable of doing what most people need a smartphone to do. The 520 goes for less than $100 off-contract, the Moto G $180. Both are incredible values. Apple has nothing to compete in this important and rapidly growing market.

Agree. There are quite a number of decent phones in the $100-250 range nowadays. Before, $200 would only get you a crappy ARM11 with 512MB storage (50-100MB usable) which barely runs Froyo/Eclair. Nowadays, the same will get you dual-core with Jelly Bean and at least 4GB storage (~2GB usable). If you go for off-brand Chinese stuff, you'd get quad-core all sorts of additional features for that price. Granted, aside from quality control (or lack thereof), battery life appears to be a concern.

[afv011]

Originally Posted by ilovejedd

Agree. There are quite a number of decent phones in the $100-250 range nowadays. Before, $200 would only get you a crappy ARM11 with 512MB storage (50-100MB usable) which barely runs Froyo/Eclair. Nowadays, the same will get you dual-core with Jelly Bean and at least 4GB storage (~2GB usable). If you go for off-brand Chinese stuff, you'd get quad-core all sorts of additional features for that price. Granted, aside from quality control (or lack thereof), battery life appears to be a concern.

Moto are doing it right. The Moto G, at just $180, strikes all the right points: good screen (720p), good performance (quad-core A7), good battery life (full day with up to 6 hours of screen time), no bloatware with a next to pure Android experience and timely updates, as shown on the Moto X. I would say Moto will have a hit with the G. Breaking in into the top tier is very difficult, so Moto have gone for the mid tier where, although margins are much tighter, the growth expectation is that much greater and, once they get traction there, they can try to break the top tier with a power phone.

[pl001]

Originally Posted by afv011

Moto are doing it right. The Moto G, at just $180, strikes all the right points: good screen (720p), good performance (quad-core A7), good battery life (full day with up to 6 hours of screen time), no bloatware with a next to pure Android experience and timely updates, as shown on the Moto X. I would say Moto will have a hit with the G. Breaking in into the top tier is very difficult, so Moto have gone for the mid tier where, although margins are much tighter, the growth expectation is that much greater and, once they get traction there, they can try to break the top tier with a power phone.

In the Motorola press releases they claim 500 million people will buy sub-$200 smartphones in 2014. That's a huge market and the Moto G is the first good Android phone to cater to it.

I also think the Moto X is on the right track. I hope to pick one up in the next few weeks. It was a mistake to not have the latest specs though. Not due to any lack of performance or functionality, just due to the fact that it took a beating from a perception standpoint.

[afv011]

Originally Posted by pl001

In the Motorola press releases they claim 500 million people will buy sub-$200 smartphones in 2014. That's a huge market and the Moto G is the first good Android phone to cater to it.

Indeed. The market for $600+ phones has reached saturation, and there were few options for those looking for a decent phone that didn't break the bank. We've had several from Samsung, but they were either too expensive (mini), or had piss poor specs. Hopefully Moto will spur competition and we will see more affordable, yet compelling, devices from other manufacturers.

[frahse]

Originally Posted by afv011

Indeed. The market for $600+ phones has reached saturation, and there were few options for those looking for a decent phone that didn't break the bank.

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I wouldn't go that far. There is a continual stream of new teenagers.