Adobe Hacked: Customer Info Stolen - Page 9

Canuck_in_Japan · 10-23-2013, 08:48 AM

Has anyone noticed getting more spam than usual? My Gmail filter is letting a lot more through than normal. I wonder if that has anything to do with my email address being stolen and sold to spammers.

Blossom · 10-23-2013, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canuck_in_Japan

Has anyone noticed getting more spam than usual? My Gmail filter is letting a lot more through than normal. I wonder if that has anything to do with my email address being stolen and sold to spammers.

I think it's just gmail. I've got a few gmail accounts and they all have increased in spam in the last month.

Jessica Lares · 10-29-2013, 03:29 PM

Oh man!

Adobe hack much worse than reported, hits 38 million passwords and Photoshop source code

http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/29/5...op-source-code

xendula · 10-29-2013, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jessica Lares

Oh man!

Adobe hack much worse than reported, hits 38 million passwords and Photoshop source code

http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/29/5...op-source-code

My favorite comment to the Engadget article:

Quote:

PapaFoeJue 5 hours ago
This is what happens when you force Users on the CLOUD you bastards.

'nuff said!

Jessica Lares · 10-30-2013, 04:29 AM

I've been paying for Creative Cloud since day one (BTW... It works offline too!). Honestly, it's worth it, especially since I started out with Photoshop, ended up learning Dreamweaver years later when it was still owned by Macromedia, moved onto InDesign, fiddled with Illustrator, and now work with After Effects and Flash 15 years later.

You know what hurts Adobe the most? The fact that most people who have been doing any image related work over the last 10 years has made most of their profit using Adobe products, yet have never gave a cent to them for the software. And that Photoshop is *probably* the #1 most pirated program (and torrent) in the world.

When your $600 dollar product is seen as freeware to the masses, you have to do something about it, and that's why they went the subscription route. They'd rather lose out to someone like Corel, then have people freeload off their work.

We're in a era where no one wants to pay for software, and it's sad that people think that just downloading it illegally for free is perfectly OK. And it was bad that people would ALWAYS get the latest version of Photoshop when it came out, looking for ways to crack it.

Honestly, why continue to allow 16 year-olds to dilute the industry with low paid work?

Lynx-lynx · 10-30-2013, 05:03 AM

Jessica you make some valid points, but using the cloud as the future option is not going to stop the programs from being pirated.

More of a challenge perhaps, but just that, a challenge to those people who know how to do these things.

It may be far far better if Adobe just put a more reasonable price on its products, prices that are in reach of a great bulk of the population that wants to use the products. Adobe will still make money - maybe not as much - but hey if their market becomes whiter than it is now because the incentive has been lessened to use the black market to access their products, then it's money Adobe never got in the first place.

Jessica Lares · 10-30-2013, 09:26 PM

Photoshop doesn't need to be cheaper, people just need to stop seeing it as the equivalent of freeware. If they want to pay only $100, they already have choices. People can pay for Pixelmator on a Mac, they have Sketchbook Pro by Autodesk, Painter Lite by Corel, and so on. And if they don't like it, then honestly, look at the bigger picture - That is what a $100 investment gets you.

Simply put - If you can't afford it, then don't use it.

Adobe already has Photoshop Elements by the way, people just don't like it because they want the tools that are in the Pro version. And those Pro elements are what makes Photoshop Extended expensive.

xendula · 10-30-2013, 10:20 PM

While it's certainly true that lots of people use a pirated copy, this is being offset - to which extent, I do not know - by all the corporate users who have no clue about graphics design, but have the company purchase a photoshop license for them, because that's the name they know. They never even end up using it. I see it in my own company - it's such a waste of money. Ever since I've noticed that, I stopped feeling bad about the losses they incur through pirating.

beautifulsoup · 10-30-2013, 10:24 PM

I have never been notified about this. O_o

eschwartz · 10-31-2013, 01:49 AM

I didn't get notified about this, but I have started getting spam at the uniquely dotted version of my gmail address I used (a long time ago) for adobe ID -- OBVIOUSLY this was before I started using spamgourmet, and I only ever used it for library books (why did I even bother with an ID, dammit).

So good job adobe on the warnings.

Blossom · 10-31-2013, 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eschwartz

I didn't get notified about this, but I have started getting spam at the uniquely dotted version of my gmail address I used (a long time ago) for adobe ID -- OBVIOUSLY this was before I started using spamgourmet, and I only ever used it for library books (why did I even bother with an ID, dammit).

So good job adobe on the warnings.

I think it's gmail. I'm getting spammed like crazy on every gmail address I own this just started last month. Alot of these spam mails are bypassing the filters too.

eschwartz · 10-31-2013, 02:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blossom

I think it's gmail. I'm getting spammed like crazy on every gmail address I own this just started last month. Alot of these spam mails are bypassing the filters too.

I got snagged by the filter, yes -- but why are they using a rather obscure combo of dots in my email address, corresponding to my adobe id login?

as in, email address:

myemailaddress123@gmail.com

adobe login:

myem.ailadd.ress123@gmail.com

spam sent to:

myem.ailadd.ress123@gmail.com

You gotta admit, THAT is suspicious!!

Jessica Lares · 10-31-2013, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xendula

While it's certainly true that lots of people use a pirated copy, this is being offset - to which extent, I do not know - by all the corporate users who have no clue about graphics design, but have the company purchase a photoshop license for them, because that's the name they know. They never even end up using it. I see it in my own company - it's such a waste of money. Ever since I've noticed that, I stopped feeling bad about the losses they incur through pirating.

Oh yeah. I see that too. My dad's Toshiba had all types of stuff he didn't need. And now, same thing with his new MacBook Pro.

jswinden · 10-31-2013, 04:57 PM

I saw an article on DPReview today where Adobe now admits that actual number of clients who were hacked is 38 million, not the 2.9 million they originally stated. I've been using Photoshop since version 1 in the 1980s. I currently own CS6 and LR 4.5. But their insistence on pushing me into a rental situation with their cloud is the final straw. I will use CS6 and LR as long as they continue to work, but I won't ever rent software from anyone. And now I have to also deal with the hacking of my account, though Adobe has never said whether it was accessed or not. They merely informed me that it might have been. I would love to see Apple buy them out, at least the imaging business. I doubt any other company would be interested and have the money too.

Canuck_in_Japan · 10-31-2013, 09:08 PM

People don't want to pay $600 for a product to edit their pictures? That's ridiculous! Perhaps they ought to have two price points, one for corporations and one for individuals.

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10-23-2013, 08:48 AM	#121
Canuck_in_Japan Wizard Posts: 1,476 Karma: 14328611 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Tokyo, Japan Device: Aura, Aura H2O, Kindle PW3	Has anyone noticed getting more spam than usual? My Gmail filter is letting a lot more through than normal. I wonder if that has anything to do with my email address being stolen and sold to spammers.

10-29-2013, 03:29 PM	#123
Jessica Lares Wizard Posts: 2,240 Karma: 5759170 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Near Dallas, Texas, USA Device: iPad Mini, iPod Touch (5th gen)	Oh man! Adobe hack much worse than reported, hits 38 million passwords and Photoshop source code http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/29/5...op-source-code

10-30-2013, 04:29 AM	#125
Jessica Lares Wizard Posts: 2,240 Karma: 5759170 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Near Dallas, Texas, USA Device: iPad Mini, iPod Touch (5th gen)	I've been paying for Creative Cloud since day one (BTW... It works offline too!). Honestly, it's worth it, especially since I started out with Photoshop, ended up learning Dreamweaver years later when it was still owned by Macromedia, moved onto InDesign, fiddled with Illustrator, and now work with After Effects and Flash 15 years later. You know what hurts Adobe the most? The fact that most people who have been doing any image related work over the last 10 years has made most of their profit using Adobe products, yet have never gave a cent to them for the software. And that Photoshop is probably the #1 most pirated program (and torrent) in the world. When your $600 dollar product is seen as freeware to the masses, you have to do something about it, and that's why they went the subscription route. They'd rather lose out to someone like Corel, then have people freeload off their work. We're in a era where no one wants to pay for software, and it's sad that people think that just downloading it illegally for free is perfectly OK. And it was bad that people would ALWAYS get the latest version of Photoshop when it came out, looking for ways to crack it. Honestly, why continue to allow 16 year-olds to dilute the industry with low paid work?

10-30-2013, 05:03 AM	#126
Lynx-lynx Treachery of images ... Posts: 4,122 Karma: 93720365 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Australia Device: Sony 650, Kobo Glo, H2O, Aura One, Forma, Libra 2, Libra Colour	Jessica you make some valid points, but using the cloud as the future option is not going to stop the programs from being pirated. More of a challenge perhaps, but just that, a challenge to those people who know how to do these things. It may be far far better if Adobe just put a more reasonable price on its products, prices that are in reach of a great bulk of the population that wants to use the products. Adobe will still make money - maybe not as much - but hey if their market becomes whiter than it is now because the incentive has been lessened to use the black market to access their products, then it's money Adobe never got in the first place.

10-30-2013, 09:26 PM	#127
Jessica Lares Wizard Posts: 2,240 Karma: 5759170 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Near Dallas, Texas, USA Device: iPad Mini, iPod Touch (5th gen)	Photoshop doesn't need to be cheaper, people just need to stop seeing it as the equivalent of freeware. If they want to pay only $100, they already have choices. People can pay for Pixelmator on a Mac, they have Sketchbook Pro by Autodesk, Painter Lite by Corel, and so on. And if they don't like it, then honestly, look at the bigger picture - That is what a $100 investment gets you. Simply put - If you can't afford it, then don't use it. Adobe already has Photoshop Elements by the way, people just don't like it because they want the tools that are in the Pro version. And those Pro elements are what makes Photoshop Extended expensive.

10-30-2013, 10:20 PM	#128
xendula eBookworm Posts: 2,300 Karma: 4525746 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: East Coast brrrrr Device: Kindle 4B/K ~ Nexus 7 ~ Kindle Paperwhite 1&2 ~ iPad Air	While it's certainly true that lots of people use a pirated copy, this is being offset - to which extent, I do not know - by all the corporate users who have no clue about graphics design, but have the company purchase a photoshop license for them, because that's the name they know. They never even end up using it. I see it in my own company - it's such a waste of money. Ever since I've noticed that, I stopped feeling bad about the losses they incur through pirating.

10-30-2013, 10:24 PM	#129
beautifulsoup Addict Posts: 262 Karma: 1143088 Join Date: Jan 2011 Device: Too many ereaders.	I have never been notified about this. O_o

10-31-2013, 01:49 AM	#130
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85400180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	I didn't get notified about this, but I have started getting spam at the uniquely dotted version of my gmail address I used (a long time ago) for adobe ID -- OBVIOUSLY this was before I started using spamgourmet, and I only ever used it for library books (why did I even bother with an ID, dammit). So good job adobe on the warnings.

10-31-2013, 04:57 PM	#134
jswinden Nameless Being	I saw an article on DPReview today where Adobe now admits that actual number of clients who were hacked is 38 million, not the 2.9 million they originally stated. I've been using Photoshop since version 1 in the 1980s. I currently own CS6 and LR 4.5. But their insistence on pushing me into a rental situation with their cloud is the final straw. I will use CS6 and LR as long as they continue to work, but I won't ever rent software from anyone. And now I have to also deal with the hacking of my account, though Adobe has never said whether it was accessed or not. They merely informed me that it might have been. I would love to see Apple buy them out, at least the imaging business. I doubt any other company would be interested and have the money too.

10-31-2013, 09:08 PM	#135
Canuck_in_Japan Wizard Posts: 1,476 Karma: 14328611 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Tokyo, Japan Device: Aura, Aura H2O, Kindle PW3	People don't want to pay $600 for a product to edit their pictures? That's ridiculous! Perhaps they ought to have two price points, one for corporations and one for individuals.