|  10-25-2013, 02:34 AM | #31 | 
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 11,310 Karma: 43993832 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Monroe Wisconsin Device: K3, Kindle Paperwhite, Calibre, and Mobipocket for  Pc (netbook) | 
			
			12 days to finish a 400 page book isn't bad. Of course how fast a person finishes a book is sometimes a matter of how engaging the story is as well. I read the last Harry Potter book in about a day or a little over and it's over 700 pages, but generally I don't read a long book that fast. The story just kept me from being able to put the book down for very long. Of course the fact that I'm on disability and had plenty of free time played into that as well. If I'd had to go to work or had other similar obligations it'd have taken me longer to read it due to that as well.
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|  10-25-2013, 02:39 AM | #32 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 1,179 Karma: 11573197 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: London, UK Device: Voyage | |
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|  10-25-2013, 02:45 PM | #33 | |
| Wizard            Posts: 3,463 Karma: 10684861 Join Date: May 2006 Device: PocketBook 360, before it was Sony Reader, cassiopeia A-20 | Quote: 
 There are other programs that do that much better. Try searching for Rapid Serial Visual Presentation When you set spreader to display more than one word, it doesn't take into account the length of the word (number of presented characters), as some other programs do. So sometimes it presents you with three very long words, wrapping them on several lines. There are quite a few programs, even commercial software, and a few plugins for Firefox. Try "Yet Another RSVP Reader". Install plugin, select text, right click, select YARR (name for the Yet Another Rapid Reader) and here you can adjust speed, width of the chunk and other things. Use up/down arrows to adjust speed and right/left arrows to adjust the number of characters. I am pretty sure that you could push yourself to much faster reading using this little program. As I said, there are even better programs When people that are considered "average" readers read, they usually look at the chunks of the text, not at individual letters. So your eye jumps around recognizing entire words, not individual letters. People that read with decent speed often look at groups of words, the larger the group, the faster reader. One of my friends, an exceptionally smart and intelligent guy, can read entire line of text with one glance (in a book typically between 50 and 75 characters). He is capable of reading an entire novel in a couple of hours. But he says that he rarely reads full speed, because you have to concentrate very hard. He also reads more slowly when he needs to understand the text thoroughly. He also made a very interesting remark that he can only high-speed-read only text in serif font. And it must be typographically well made. Another guy I have met told us a story about his grammar school. He was attending a special school in a "captive town" founded by famous Czech enterpriser Tomas Bata. In captive towns all housing were built by factory for factory workers, all stores, schools and other institutions were operated by the same company. He said that for the first two (or was it three?) years, they were learning almost exclusively reading. He said that at the end of third class pupils were able to read much faster than an average adult and that this skill has helped his academic career tremendously. He claimed that he is able to read an A4 page at a glance, just by sweeping it with eyes from top to bottom. | |
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|  10-25-2013, 03:10 PM | #34 | |
| Wizard            Posts: 4,812 Karma: 26912940 Join Date: Apr 2010 Device: sony PRS-T1 and T3, Kobo Mini and Aura HD, Tablet | Quote: 
 I tend to read a paragraph at a chunk if less than 6 lines. The physical length of the line sees to make more difference in how comfortably I read than the characters per line. Aging eyeballs perhaps. On a 5 inch reader I am good with 80 character per line, on a 6 or 6.8 reader it is more like 60. Not really the number of characters but the physical length of the line. It is all really well to cram as much text as possible on a page, but it just doesn't work for me. I have to almost concentrate on each line and often go back to the line before. Slightly shorter lines I don't even notice any transition in reading unless the evil Kobo skips ahead or back a page or 6. Helen | |
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|  10-30-2013, 07:05 AM | #35 | 
| Zealot            Posts: 148 Karma: 483146 Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Helsinki, Finland Device: Kindle PaperWhite 5 (10th gen) | 
			
			crich70: Relating to your previous post, I am just about to go update my profile as I just purched Cybook Opus reader   Finally I can enjoy my books on my own reader. | 
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|  10-30-2013, 07:29 AM | #36 | 
| Guru            Posts: 650 Karma: 5632364 Join Date: Dec 2011 Device: Kindle PW 4, Oasis 2 | 
			
			I do subvocalize and can read novels up to a thousand pages long in 8 hours or less.  For those that think that is not good enough, you're probably skipping or skimming over sentences that the author spent hours tormenting themselves over and you simply can't be bothered to really appreciate what you're reading. If it's important to you to read a novel fast, spend less time on other past times and focus on what you're reading. That is the only sure way to enjoy what you're reading and read more novels. It is the transformation of reading into a consumerist culture of buying and consuming books that leads to so many fools trying everything to read faster, to buy more. Why? So you can start another novel while already thinking about the one ahead of it? Why not focus on enjoying what you're currently reading instead? I pity those that all they want to do is reader faster just to get to the next thing and do it all over again. You're running on a treadmill. | 
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|  10-30-2013, 07:46 AM | #37 | |
| Guru            Posts: 602 Karma: 1712372 Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: germany Device: PocketBook Touch | 
			
			Hi Artur, do not ask for methods of fastreading. That's for advanced readers, who must read many long texts for work. Your first step must be to read more often. Quote: 
 With enough training you will not need to form the words with the mouth. You will her them in your head. Like, when you are thinking about somthing. It's a bit the same like beginning reading a foreign language. First you translate word by word, and then finisch the whole sentence. But later you don't translate any more. - And speaking / reading are different systems of languages. (In some countrys really different languages.) Greetings, Faltradl | |
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|  10-30-2013, 10:57 AM | #38 | |
| Wizard            Posts: 4,812 Karma: 26912940 Join Date: Apr 2010 Device: sony PRS-T1 and T3, Kobo Mini and Aura HD, Tablet | Quote: 
 Helen | |
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|  10-30-2013, 11:56 AM | #39 | |
| Bah, humbug!            Posts: 39,072 Karma: 157049943 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Chesapeake, VA, USA Device: Kindle Oasis, iPad Pro, & a Samsung Galaxy S9. | Quote: 
 I did take the initial test and discovered I read normally at a speed of 336 WPM. That's 134% the average adult speed according to the site, or 20% of the speed of pretty much everyone else at MobileRead (or so it seems  ). | |
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|  10-30-2013, 01:47 PM | #40 | |
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 6,111 Karma: 34000001 Join Date: Mar 2008 Device: KPW1, KA1 | Quote: 
 I stated that it takes me around 9 hours to read a +/- 350 page book, but I seem to be one of the slowest people in this thread with a large margin. Could poor eyesight have something to do with reading speed? Some tips like "hold the book further away" and "try to read the entire paragraph at a glance" are just not going to work for me. Some of the sites or programs that scroll or flash words on the screen are useless; they're already gone before I'm actually able to focus on them. On the Kindle, I mostly go like this: - Focus on the top line, with the entire line in my field of view. - Then, simultaneously read downward while also moving the kindle upward about half of its length. I don't refocus, and I don't move my eyes from side to side. I "draw a line" right down the middle of the page. Then I turn the page, refocus on the top line again after blinking, and repeat. I do the same with websites and forums, in a very narrow browser window, if the site allows me to do so. (MR doesn't: it's too wide, even at the smallest possible width.) Last edited by Katsunami; 10-30-2013 at 01:58 PM. | |
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|  10-30-2013, 01:56 PM | #41 | |
| Wizard            Posts: 4,812 Karma: 26912940 Join Date: Apr 2010 Device: sony PRS-T1 and T3, Kobo Mini and Aura HD, Tablet | Quote: 
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|  10-30-2013, 04:43 PM | #42 | |
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 7,452 Karma: 7185064 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Linköpng, Sweden Device: Kindle Voyage, Nexus 5, Kindle PW | Quote: 
 I also read that you always have a voice in your head but sometimes you do not notice it. Even if you read so slow as 5 minutes per page a 400 page book is then 2000 minutes which is around 35 hours. If you want to read you should be able to read 2-4 books per month even at that speed. | |
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|  10-30-2013, 07:02 PM | #43 | |
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 6,111 Karma: 34000001 Join Date: Mar 2008 Device: KPW1, KA1 | Quote: 
  I'm actually quite skeptical, and openly so. Oh, I don't doubt that there are people who are faster than I am, but some claims are just too much to be believable. That would mean a full work week to read one book. It would be quite tough to put 4 work weeks of reading into a month, next to a normal job. (I know; I've recently put in 2-3 work weeks of studying while having a normal job, and it's not funny.) Last edited by Katsunami; 10-30-2013 at 07:05 PM. | |
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|  10-30-2013, 11:27 PM | #44 | ||
| Bah, humbug!            Posts: 39,072 Karma: 157049943 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Chesapeake, VA, USA Device: Kindle Oasis, iPad Pro, & a Samsung Galaxy S9. | Quote: 
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|  10-30-2013, 11:49 PM | #45 | |
| Wizard            Posts: 4,812 Karma: 26912940 Join Date: Apr 2010 Device: sony PRS-T1 and T3, Kobo Mini and Aura HD, Tablet | Quote: 
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