time left in chapter totally wrong....

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by jswinden

Page numbers don't display at all if your book is modified and turned into a Personal Document. For PDs, you get location numbers. And for Amazon books (unmodified books) page numbers only display if they were put there by the publisher, so not all books have them. Actually most of my books don't have them. Probably too old and were published prior to this feature being added.

If you send your books to the Kindle using Calibre, as I do, Calibre automatically generates (fake) page numbers for you. All the books on my PW2 have been sent using Calibre, and all display page numbers.

[Katsunami]

Originally Posted by jswinden

Page numbers don't display at all if your book is modified and turned into a Personal Document. For PDs, you get location numbers. And for Amazon books (unmodified books) page numbers only display if they were put there by the publisher, so not all books have them. Actually most of my books don't have them. Probably too old and were published prior to this feature being added.

Oh, OK. One more reason for me to stick with Calibre conversions then. Count Pages can put pagenumbers in, and I really like that. At around 2350-2400 characters per page, it gives a good sense of how big a paperback would have been.

Then again, my main format is EPUB; I don't really care if Calibre completely mangles the AZW3 and how it looks inside, as long as it works as expected. If I need a different format later on, I'll just reconvert.

IMO, it would make more sense for the PW2 to count how many PW2 screens of text are in a chapter/book. That way you would get a better feel for how long you have left to read. I understand using page numbers associated with the printed version of the book if they are available, but when they are not it makes little to no sense to use arbitrary page numbers that represent x.y number of screens of text. I understand of course that calibre cannot predict how many screens of text will be required on an eInk device because each device is different and each person can set the text size. But the PW2 should be able to easily determine how many screens of text are in a chapter/book based on the user's current settings and give a proper number of how many are left. I can predict how long it takes to read one screen of text, but predicting a page based on say 3.4 screens of text is not going to happen.

[HarryT]

To clarify, it's not the PW that's generating the "made up" page numbers, but Calibre. If there isn't a page map file (a file with a ".apnx" extension) present, the PW won't display any page numbers at all.

Paginating a book as you describe would be a reasonably lengthy process, which would need to be re-done whenever the user changed the text size or the font.

[Katsunami]

Originally Posted by HarryT

Paginating a book as you describe would be a reasonably lengthy process, which would need to be re-done whenever the user changed the text size or the font.

Duokan does this.

If you have a really large book, it is no fun.

[vxf]

My timer goes wrong when I read on other devices. Like I'll read a book on my PW, then I switch on my ipad - when I sync pages back, the 'time left' becomes very short. It's like it thinks I read those pages really fast - when they got sync'd.

[Blossom]

Be sure to report the issue to Amazon so it can be fixed! I've never had an issue on my PW1 so it's a new bug.

I still like the progress bar across the bottom of the K3 screen better than any of the progress schemes Amazon has come up with for the PWs. It was simple, elegant, spot on, and useful.

[Blossom]

Originally Posted by jswinden

I still like the progress bar across the bottom of the K3 screen better than any of the progress schemes Amazon has come up with for the PWs. It was simple, elegant, spot on, and useful.

Not me I love time left to read. I am lost without it. The gauge doesn't tell me enough when I read on my K4. I need to know how much time is left in this chapter and how much time is left in the book. It one of the best feature Amazon has ever come up with for a Kindle.

[soulfuldog]

Originally Posted by jswinden

I still like the progress bar across the bottom of the K3 screen better than any of the progress schemes Amazon has come up with for the PWs. It was simple, elegant, spot on, and useful.

This graphical representation of where you are in the book, and in a decently formatted book where you are in terms of the next/last chapter, is something I expect to miss greatly when I get my PW. Time left to read is a bit more abstract, location and even the percentage figure seems a little more abstract than that little progress bar.

Though as Blossom's contrary opinion clearly shows, there should be an option to switch between the two to keep us all happy.

Originally Posted by l_macd

This graphical representation of where you are in the book, and in a decently formatted book where you are in terms of the next/last chapter, is something I expect to miss greatly when I get my PW. Time left to read is a bit more abstract, location and even the percentage figure seems a little more abstract than that little progress bar.

Though as Blossom's contrary opinion clearly shows, there should be an option to switch between the two to keep us all happy.

Yes, there should definitely be several options. I do recall that a lot of folks (including myself) complained when Amazon stopped using the progress bar at the bottom. The time left would be terrific if the FW didn't muck up the calculations. As is, it is too unreliable at the moment.

[sirmaru]

Originally Posted by jswinden

Yes, there should definitely be several options. I do recall that a lot of folks (including myself) complained when Amazon stopped using the progress bar at the bottom. The time left would be terrific if the FW didn't muck up the calculations. As is, it is too unreliable at the moment.

If you are inside an eBook, go to Menu / Reading Progress. There are four settings:

1. Location in book.
2. Page in book.
3. Time left in Chapter.
4. Time left in book.

I use "Time left in Chapter" and it is accurate to +/- five minutes which is just fine for me. It can never be 100% accurate since we get distractions while reading and our speed on each page could vary from other pages.

Tapping the lower left hand corner rotates those options in sequence.

If we have wide variations in page reading speed, it recalculates on its own.

[BeeTee-Ess]

Originally Posted by sirmaru

If you are inside an eBook, go to Menu / Reading Progress. There are four settings:

1. Location in book.
2. Page in book.
3. Time left in Chapter.
4. Time left in book.

I use "Time left in Chapter" and it is accurate to +/- five minutes which is just fine for me. It can never be 100% accurate since we get distractions while reading and our speed on each page could vary from other pages.

Tapping the lower left hand corner rotates those options in sequence.

If we have wide variations in page reading speed, it recalculates on its own.

Depends upon the book...

Not all books have all of the options.

[shahvikram123]

Originally Posted by jswinden

No, I don't think that is my issue as this book looks clean as far as html and toc go. It did well for the first 8 chapters then it lost its mind! The book is huge at almost 1100 pages. Not sure if that matters. I suspect that what you said is true though for wonky designed books, and there are plenty of those out there.

Was this the a game of thrones book by any chance? because I've been getting the same issues with the game of thrones book. If so, maybe it depends on the book too…

[sirmaru]

Originally Posted by BeeTee-Ess

Depends upon the book...

Not all books have all of the options.

Everyone of my Amazon purchased eBooks have those 4 options on the PW 2013. You are correct in that the PW 2012 did NOT have all those options on many books Page numbers were not available in all of them.

However, page numbers ARE available in all of them on the PW 2013. The firmware may have changed. Maybe the PW 2012 will get a firmware upgrade to match the PW 2013.