|  10-22-2013, 02:27 PM | #1 | 
| Nameless Being | 
				
				iPad Air and iPad Mini with Retina announced
			 
			
			Apple announced the iPad Air and iPad Mini with Retina. iPad Air with Retina and A7 64-bit CPU starts at $499. iPad Mini with Retina and A7 64-bit CPU starts at $399. Mavericks is FREE!!!! | 
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|  10-22-2013, 02:33 PM | #2 | 
| monkey on the fringe            Posts: 45,852 Karma: 158733736 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Seattle Metro Device: Moto E6, Echo Show | 
			
			$70 price hike on the mini    | 
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|  10-22-2013, 02:36 PM | #3 | 
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|  10-22-2013, 02:38 PM | #4 | 
| monkey on the fringe            Posts: 45,852 Karma: 158733736 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Seattle Metro Device: Moto E6, Echo Show | 
			
			A 90 minute event and they only spent 15 minutes on the iPad. Also, the iPod touch didn't get a refresh this year. Looks like a two-year cycle. There was a two-year gap between the iPt4 and the iPt5. | 
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|  10-22-2013, 02:38 PM | #5 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 1,731 Karma: 3472866 Join Date: Apr 2008 Device: Sony PRS-650 & 350; Kindle Voyage; Kobo Aura HD, Aura One, and Forma | 
			
			Now I've got to decide whether it's time to upgrade my iPad 2...and if so, will it be with a new iPad Air or a mini?  Up until recently I always thought I'd get a mini if they produced one with a retina display...but now I'm not so sure--decisions, decisions!
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|  10-22-2013, 02:40 PM | #6 | 
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			They need to either put a decent battery in the Touch or just drop it from the line up, IMO. None of them have ever had a decent battery.
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|  10-22-2013, 02:40 PM | #7 | 
| monkey on the fringe            Posts: 45,852 Karma: 158733736 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Seattle Metro Device: Moto E6, Echo Show | |
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|  10-22-2013, 02:42 PM | #8 | 
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			I initially thought of upgrading to the Air because they tend to lessen the specs on the Mini, but looking at their website it looks like the Mini specs are the same as the Air. If that is so, then the Mini would be a better deal for me. Sounds like the Mini won't be available until well into November, and rumors have been saying it will be in very short supply until next year. The Air goes on sale November 1.
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|  10-22-2013, 02:48 PM | #9 | 
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|  10-22-2013, 02:48 PM | #10 | |
| monkey on the fringe            Posts: 45,852 Karma: 158733736 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Seattle Metro Device: Moto E6, Echo Show | Quote: 
 Besides the battery issue, its specs are several generations behind the iPhone. | |
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|  10-22-2013, 02:50 PM | #11 | 
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			I owned the gen 1, 2, and 4. I couldn't expect more than 3 to 4 hours of reading time on them, and more than 2 to 3 hours of video. I never streamed music, I'm guessing that would last longer as the screen would be turned off.
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|  10-22-2013, 02:59 PM | #12 | 
| monkey on the fringe            Posts: 45,852 Karma: 158733736 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Seattle Metro Device: Moto E6, Echo Show | 
			
			I've never read on my 4, because it's LCD and the screen is too small. As to the battery, I've never had a problem; my touch sits in a speaker dock when in use. I also don't run around with it. The poor specs and lack of features make it a waste of pocket space.
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|  10-22-2013, 03:08 PM | #13 | 
| pokrývač škridiel            Posts: 1,525 Karma: 3300000 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Bratislava, Slovakia Device: 3*iPad, SamsungNote & Tabs, 2*OnyxBoox, Huawei 8″, PocketBook |   
			
			Quoting myself: The price increase on the iPad mini is horrible. How do they expect to compete with Nexus 7 if it's $229 versus $399?  I predict Nexus 7 will steamroll over the new iPad mini in terms of market share. Continuing to sell the original iPad 2 at $399 is pretty weird, too.   | 
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|  10-22-2013, 03:21 PM | #14 | 
| Addict            Posts: 310 Karma: 1013114 Join Date: Sep 2006 | 
			
			I have the original mini I think I will hang onto, I hate to say it I love the mini, but the prices are getting nuts, especially when you stack it up against the screens on the nexus 7 and HDX.
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|  10-22-2013, 03:38 PM | #15 | 
| hopeless n00b            Posts: 5,126 Karma: 19597086 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: in the middle of nowhere Device: PW4, PW3, Libra H2O, iPad 10.5, iPad 11, iPad 12.9 | 
			
			It's Apple. What did you expect? They're not going to sacrifice profit margin that's for sure. Granted, I expected the retina iPad Mini to be around $379 rather than $399. While I don't mind the price hike, I think I'll skip it again this year. For me, one of the main draws of the iPad Mini is the 312 g weight. With the retina version jumping to 341 g, I'd rather get the 290 g Nexus 7 (2013). Still in 2 minds about the iPad Air. I need a 128GB Verizon iPad and that's $929 for Air and $729 for iPad 4. | 
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