Paperwhite Second Gen: First Impressions

[fearindex]

Originally Posted by Josieb1

The brightness shows better here, with the cover photos.

Sorry you had bad ones.

BTW, my PW1 screen is crooked exactly like the one on the left. It shows worst on the home screen where you can see the black top bar not quite reaching the bezel in the top right corner.

[Chi Cygni]

I got a gadget today to play with too brand new double sim Android phone. Granted, not a new PW but still something for gadgetitis

[HarryT]

It seems to be generally true to say, reading this thread, that those people who were happy with the PW1 tend to be equally happy with the PW2, and those people who were unhappy with the PW1 are likewise unhappy with the PW2, which reinforces my view that, leaving obvious physically faulty units aside, happiness with these devices is largely a matter of individual expectations and perception.

[sirmaru]

Originally Posted by HarryT

It seems to be generally true to say, reading this thread, that those people who were happy with the PW1 tend to be equally happy with the PW2, and those people who were unhappy with the PW1 are likewise unhappy with the PW2, which reinforces my view that, leaving obvious physically faulty units aside, happiness with these devices is largely a matter of individual expectations and perception.

I agree 100%.

Those, who look for problems, WILL find them.

[sparklemotion]

Originally Posted by xendula

Darn it, I'll take the plunge and try for a third one, now that sparklemotion got lucky, too! You guys are twisting my arm!

YES, you must try again! You need to have a good one too! Crossing fingers and toes for you, hon!

Originally Posted by Chi Cygni

I got a gadget today to play with too brand new double sim Android phone. Granted, not a new PW but still something for gadgetitis

YAY for a new gadget! Enjoy it!

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by sirmaru

Those, who look for problems, WILL find them.

No, I'm not suggesting that people look for problems; I simply mean that some people are more sensitive to variations in lighting intensity, etc, than others.

[Yolina]

Originally Posted by sirmaru

I agree 100%.

Those, who look for problems, WILL find them.

Originally Posted by HarryT

No, I'm not suggesting that people look for problems; I simply mean that some people are more sensitive to variations in lighting intensity, etc, than others.

Thank you Harry I was never totally happy with my PW1, even after a replacement (the replacement was a million times better than the first one but still not great). However I am absolutely over the moon with my PW2 - I got lucky and they sent me a good one fist time and I have no complaints whatsoever about the screen this time.

[Barty]

Originally Posted by marcl

I've got a PW2 and found it very yellowish without light. Not the light is yellow but the background. If I turn the light on the yellowish fade and the light is very white.

I've try to take some pictures side by side with the Kindle 4NT. On the pictures the yellowish is a little bit less than in real. Are there all PW2 this yellowish with light off or is this not normal?

http://abload.de/image.php?img=20131015_195854xgkqj.jpg
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I don't know if it's normal but mine is yellow without the light. Almost kinda brown. It's more paper bag than paper white. My k3 is a neutral gray by comparison. I need to turn light up to about 8 or 9 to make the background as light as the k3.

[sparklemotion]

Originally Posted by Josieb1

I'm sending both Kindles back, get the refund for those then try again. It's too messy otherwise. I've had a bereavement in the family this week so it's not a good time to be doing this anyway.

I'm so sorry for your loss.

Originally Posted by Josieb1

I've received my second PW2 today and while it looks darker yellow than yesterday's, it also seems brighter, which is strange. Can anyone see what I mean?

Also for some reason I can't work out I get an extra line at the bottom of each page with the new one.

The left one seems a bit brighter. Really strange how the right one has two more lines of text though. Are all the formatting settings the same on both. Perhaps the line spacing is different or perhaps one is set to use Publisher's font which can also change the line spacing.

Josieb1, I'm sorry for you loss. My condolences to you and your family.

Originally Posted by Barty

I don't know if it's normal but mine is yellow without the light. Almost kinda brown. It's more paper bag than paper white. My k3 is a neutral gray by comparison. I need to turn light up to about 8 or 9 to make the background as light as the k3.

My Kindle Touch was like that. It was more tan than grey. In good light it looked okay though.

Originally Posted by xendula

I like the more beige screen when unlit, compared to the geyish one. My problem was that on my second one, the light was yellow, not the screen, and it was very very yellow, like pee from dehydrated person - eeeeewwwww.

Funny! You should put that statement in your Amazon.com review.

[fearindex]

Originally Posted by xendula

The misalignment sounds like the first PW2 they sent me. Bizarre, since I don't recall anyone reporting these problems last year.

I guess you just missed them. I saw plenty of reports online of crooked PW1 screens, including my own. I researched it when trying to determine whether to keep mine or not. I concluded overall my screen was better than I expected of a replacement or two, so I kept it despite the screen that is at a slight angle.

[levante]

Originally Posted by sirmaru

Those, who look for problems, WILL find them.

My grandmother said that ignorance brings happiness. My mother says: eyes that not see, heart that not suffers. And no pinholes, I add.

[fearindex]

Originally Posted by sirmaru

I agree 100%.

Those, who look for problems, WILL find them.

Even if that were true (I'm not so sure it is in this case), the fact remains: different technologies have different weak points. Non-lit e-ink screens do not have most of the issues listed here, so a person buying a $69 Kindle is much less likely to find problems with it, even when searching for them. The frontlight technology seems to be prone to a certain range of issues resulting from LED allowances, layer alignment and purity etc. that simply aren't there with pre-PW Kindles.