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Old 10-13-2013, 01:40 PM   #16
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With the aura HD if you hit the light button and it doesn't change state chances are it is doing something and will eventually finish.

I find this helpful when you select something and the icon goes black and nothing happens. Sometimes it is just taking a long time and sometimes it is simply ignoring the input. If the light changes state then I know that I have to try again

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This is kinda helpful except that if it doesn't change it could either be because it is processing or because it is completely frozen...
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Old 10-13-2013, 07:55 PM   #17
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This is kinda helpful except that if it doesn't change it could either be because it is processing or because it is completely frozen...
You ae right and I thought of saying that. So far in my experience it has come back. Took more than 4 hours once. Luckily I have other ereaders that work better

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Old 10-13-2013, 11:16 PM   #18
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Irregular blinking disc activity light is much better indicator that computer or reader is active and not frozen than animated spinning wheel or sequence of boxes appearing over and over. Even then processor could be swamped trying to process more than it can handle, poorly formatted book or corrupted database. My T1 has such a blinking light under micro SD card cover and was sometimes blinking entertainment that could not help processing problems. Kobo has color changing red, green, blue blinking power light that don't blink for long and I don't remember what colors indicate.
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Old 10-14-2013, 09:57 AM   #19
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My AuraHD never experiences such "processing problems" and poorly formatted ebooks cause no problems (except if, and to the extent their "poor" format looks bad on the page). I suspect that the reason might be because I have exactly three files that I let Nickel manage. Two of them are .png image files that are used to launch programs from my AuraHD's home page. The other one is an epub that I keep in /mnt/onboard so that I can check things out under Nickel.

My AuraHD is very responsive and I seldom wait for anything, and this is with software that is still very much in development.

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Old 10-14-2013, 10:12 AM   #20
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Ken; while your experiences are fantastic, they are totally atypical and frankly bear no use to a person who uses a Kobo as intended.

You frankly are not useing a Kobo in any wayh, shape or form.
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Old 10-14-2013, 11:31 AM   #21
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Ken; while your experiences are fantastic, they are totally atypical and frankly bear no use to a person who uses a Kobo as intended.

You frankly are not useing a Kobo in any wayh, shape or form.
Actually, I am using my Kobo AuraHD, exactly as I intended when I bought it, to read ebooks. I take it you mean "as KOBO intended".

I appreciate the device that Kobo put up for sale, it is a pretty good piece of hardware. I also like that they were (at least at the start) open with their software approach. Kobo provided the hardware that some very talented people (who post here, by the way) could port other ereading programs onto.

With these ported programs I can use my Kobo device to read any of the ~7000 ebooks that I usually have on my AuraHD, in "hidden" folders on both internal and external uSD cards.

I, for one, do not buy many things with the intention of using them only as someone else thinks I should. I have a use in mind when I buy things, but it can often be something the seller would have never thought of. (I should post my "Chicken Acapulco" recipe) I doubt Kobo would approve of my opening the case of the device (their device? or my device?) and upgrading the internal uSD card. They could be in shock about the hatch I put in my case, to make the internal card accessible. I have no interest in gathering data on my reading habits and providing them to Kobo or Google. I don't want any "Awards" or recommendations from Kobo and can keep my libraries safe and managed on my own PCs/network. So... if these things are required to be "using a Kobo" "as intended" then you are right, I am not, and I never intended to.

As to other users, I can at least point out where perhaps there are good reasons to consider using their Kobo devices in a manner other than Kobo intended.

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Old 10-14-2013, 12:45 PM   #22
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Actually, I am using my Kobo AuraHD, exactly as I intended when I bought it, to read ebooks. I take it you mean "as KOBO intended".

I appreciate the device that Kobo put up for sale, it is a pretty good piece of hardware. I also like that they were (at least at the start) open with their software approach. Kobo provided the hardware that some very talented people (who post here, by the way) could port other ereading programs onto.

With these ported programs I can use my Kobo device to read any of the ~7000 ebooks that I usually have on my AuraHD, in "hidden" folders on both internal and external uSD cards.

I, for one, do not buy many things with the intention of using them only as someone else thinks I should. I have a use in mind when I buy things, but it can often be something the seller would have never thought of. (I should post my "Chicken Acapulco" recipe) I doubt Kobo would approve of my opening the case of the device (their device? or my device?) and upgrading the internal uSD card. They could be in shock about the hatch I put in my case, to make the internal card accessible. I have no interest in gathering data on my reading habits and providing them to Kobo or Google. I don't want any "Awards" or recommendations from Kobo and can keep my libraries safe and managed on my own PCs/network. So... if these things are required to be "using a Kobo" "as intended" then you are right, I am not, and I never intended to.

As to other users, I can at least point out where perhaps there are good reasons to consider using their Kobo devices in a manner other than Kobo intended.

Luck;
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Actually Ken, I think the majority of the users here are with you on the salient points you make. Most of us bought the reader to read. Not to view pictures, not to play games, not to surf the internet, and not to hack so far away from the original kobo programming as to be unrecognizable. But we did buy it to read and read we shall.

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Old 10-15-2013, 04:03 PM   #23
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I think the heartbeat is a very reassuring indication when properly implemented. As for user patience declining, I can only suggest one consult various studies made throughout the PC era regarding user's adaptability to faster processing and feeling they were waiting after ever shortening periods as PC software got quicker.

Sorts or indexing always were very slow, but people waited because they had to and because it was still so much faster than any other method available, today's user takes it for granted and is bothered if something takes between 5-10 seconds, especially if it doesn't always take that long.

User's adapt and expect more and more with each generation, despite the fact that the machine is usually just sitting there waiting on them 99.99999% of the time.

How this pertains to Kobo devices, in my mind, is that when the device is sitting there seemingly unresponsive and unchanging for whatever reason, especially coupled with the e-ink screen which could well continue to display the last image even if the processor or screen controller melted to slag, that we should have some routine providing an indication just to keep us from pushing buttons, "paperclipping" resets, dropping it from heights, driving it off cliffs, flying into it with an IED attached to our quadcopter drone, etc.
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Old 10-15-2013, 04:26 PM   #24
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I think the heartbeat is a very reassuring indication when properly implemented. As for user patience declining, I can only suggest one consult various studies made throughout the PC era regarding user's adaptability to faster processing and feeling they were waiting after ever shortening periods as PC software got quicker.

Sorts or indexing always were very slow, but people waited because they had to and because it was still so much faster than any other method available, today's user takes it for granted and is bothered if something takes between 5-10 seconds, especially if it doesn't always take that long.

User's adapt and expect more and more with each generation, despite the fact that the machine is usually just sitting there waiting on them 99.99999% of the time.

How this pertains to Kobo devices, in my mind, is that when the device is sitting there seemingly unresponsive and unchanging for whatever reason, especially coupled with the e-ink screen which could well continue to display the last image even if the processor or screen controller melted to slag, that we should have some routine providing an indication just to keep us from pushing buttons, "paperclipping" resets, dropping it from heights, driving it off cliffs, flying into it with an IED attached to our quadcopter drone, etc.
I want a picture of the quadcopter drone with or without Kobo attached

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Old 10-16-2013, 01:08 AM   #25
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How this pertains to Kobo devices, in my mind, is that when the device is sitting there seemingly unresponsive and unchanging for whatever reason, especially coupled with the e-ink screen which could well continue to display the last image even if the processor or screen controller melted to slag, that we should have some routine providing an indication just to keep us from pushing buttons, "paperclipping" resets, dropping it from heights, driving it off cliffs, flying into it with an IED attached to our quadcopter drone, etc.
I think this is always amusing. When people are willing to go to such great lengths and expend an amount of effort and time in alleviating their frustration when it would require but a fraction to wait for something to work.

Then again it is fun to tinker and make things go boom.
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Actually Ken, I think the majority of the users here are with you on the salient points you make. Most of us bought the reader to read. Not to view pictures, not to play games, not to surf the internet, and not to hack so far away from the original kobo programming as to be unrecognizable. But we did buy it to read and read we shall.

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Actually, almost all of the original Kobo programming is untouched by the addition of these programs. All the Kobo programming functions just as it did before the alternative readers were added. It looks and works exactly as it ever did. It just has two "book tiles", on the home page and/or in the library, that launch the programs, instead of opening a book. You can use the Kobo programming, as much as you want and it starts looking just as Kobo "intended", you don't get to any of the other programming until you select one of the launching tiles. If you didn't ever select one of them you would have your kobo device looking and acting the same as ever. You can return to the Kobo programming from the other programs and it will still be there just as you left it. You can use both Kobo programming and as much of the others as you want, so ... there is no change that would make it "unrecognizable".

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