Fat fonts for Kindle KPW2 - Page 4

booklover6 · 10-10-2013, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by dordale

I'm having some difficulty as well--hope someone can give me some clues...I'm following all the steps exactly as latepaul outlined above, but getting a different result. After doing this, I do see an option for "Publisher Font" when choosing the Font (aA) button, but when I choose that, it defaults to Helvetica instead of the font I embedded in the Calibre conversion. Am I missing a simple step? Thanks for any pointers!!

On the "Look and Feel" page, there is a tab titled "Filter Style Information." Click on it. Now look for Fonts. Make sure that box is NOT checked.

dordale · 10-10-2013, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by booklover6

On the "Look and Feel" page, there is a tab titled "Filter Style Information." Click on it. Now look for Fonts. Make sure that box is NOT checked.

Thanks Booklover! I bet that's it. I'll check when I get home tonight. I had that checked by default when I was converting to ePubs for my Sony. Never thought to uncheck it before trying to convert to azw with an embedded font!

Karma to you.

JSWolf · 10-10-2013, 04:06 PM

You do not need to install any fonts in Windows. Calibre can pick up the fonts as files outside of where fonts are installed in Windows. So no need if you don't want them installed.

Just create a directory, place the fonts in and you can select these fonts for Calibre to embed.

JSWolf · 10-10-2013, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by latepaul

I think it's a Calibre issue. I tried again starting with a plain text file and that embedded the font and I got to see the Publisher's font option on the Kindle.

If I do a tweak book and explode the azw3 from the original conversion there's nothing in the fonts directory. I'll check on the Calibre forum for any known issues with font embedding.

Cheers

It could be that the ePub has font-family references in the CSS. Load it back into Sigil and check the CSS file. If it does, remove them and save. Then try the conversion with embedding and see how it goes.

JSWolf · 10-10-2013, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by EbokJunkie

Unfortunately, font embedding appreciably bloats a book size. Say, one keeps two hundred books on PW averaging 2.0 MB each and embedded font is 0.5 MB. So, initial 400 MB will become 500. Add multiple dictionaries 50-60 MB each... strong argument to hold on PW1... until Amazon closes that loophole with FW update :-(

One way to solve the bloat problem is to also select to subset the fonts. That way, any font not used will not be embedded and the fonts used will be reduced to just the characters in the book.

Barty · 10-10-2013, 05:24 PM

It seems when the source book already has a font embedded in it, the calibre method does not work. The embedded font will supersede the font you add. Any way around this other than to manually edit the book and remove the font?

Katsunami · 10-10-2013, 05:38 PM

Install the Modify EPUB plugin, if it's an EPUB. It has the option to remove embedded fonts.

EbokJunkie · 10-10-2013, 06:51 PM

On embedding fonts one need to erase all font-family references in source file. To this end, go to Look&Feel, find tab Filter Style Information and enter text "font-family" (without quotation marks) into the field Other CSS properties.
Erasing font-family references will provide proper display of embedded font when Publisher Font is selected.
I never use Calibre GUI, just issue command ebook-convert with parameter --filter-css font-family.

Rizla · 10-10-2013, 09:17 PM

I'm surprised you can't install custom fonts on the PW2. Having to embed them in the ebook is not progress. Duh, Amazon.

latepaul · 10-11-2013, 01:42 AM

There are no font-family references in the source epub (including the css). I've checked and double-checked. What's odd is that if I change the file even a little bit it seems to fix the problem. I suspect there's some incorrect code somewhere that Sigil is auto-fixing and it's this that Calibre's getting confused by.

Josieb1 · 10-11-2013, 03:21 AM

Can I ask a few questions please?

Is there a tutorial anywhere that tells how to embed fonts using Calibre?

Also I tried embedding one using 'look and feel' but when I loaded it onto my Kindle I didn't see the option to select 'Publisher Font', was that because I hadn't removed the Fonts hack yet? I was testing it on a PW1, my PW2 arrives next week.

I only read DRM free mobi's so converting through Calibre is what I do. I rarely read anything bought from Amazon. This is all new to me but I did like my own font.

Thanks Jo

HarryT · 10-11-2013, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Josieb1

Can I ask a few questions please?

Is there a tutorial anywhere that tells how to embed fonts using Calibre?

Also I tried embedding one using 'look and feel' but when I loaded it onto my Kindle I didn't see the option to select 'Publisher Font', was that because I hadn't removed the Fonts hack yet? I was testing it on a PW1, my PW2 arrives next week.

I only read DRM free mobi's so converting through Calibre is what I do. I rarely read anything bought from Amazon. This is all new to me but I did like my own font.

Thanks Jo

What format were you converting to? Mobi doesn't support embedded fonts - only KF8 (which Calibre calls "AZW3") does.

Josieb1 · 10-11-2013, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

What format were you converting to? Mobi doesn't support embedded fonts - only KF8 (which Calibre calls "AZW3") does.

I'm only using mobi, I have never tried converting to KF8. I assume I just select that as the output as I normally use do Mobi?

HarryT · 10-11-2013, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Josieb1

I'm only using mobi, I have never tried converting to KF8. I assume I just select that as the output as I normally use do Mobi?

Correct. Choose "AZW3" as the output format.

Josieb1 · 10-11-2013, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

Correct. Choose "AZW3" as the output format.

Thank you, I'll have a play

10-10-2013, 06:51 PM	#53
EbokJunkie Addict Posts: 230 Karma: 13495 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SoCal Device: Kindle 3, Kindle PW, Pocketbook 301+, Pocketbook Touch, Sony 950, 350	On embedding fonts one need to erase all font-family references in source file. To this end, go to Look&Feel, find tab Filter Style Information and enter text "font-family" (without quotation marks) into the field Other CSS properties. Erasing font-family references will provide proper display of embedded font when Publisher Font is selected. I never use Calibre GUI, just issue command ebook-convert with parameter --filter-css font-family. Last edited by EbokJunkie; 10-10-2013 at 06:59 PM.

10-11-2013, 03:21 AM	#56
Josieb1 Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,086 Karma: 18051062 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: UK Device: Kindle Scribe, Coloursoft, PW SE, Kindle 6, Kobo Libra 2	Can I ask a few questions please? Is there a tutorial anywhere that tells how to embed fonts using Calibre? Also I tried embedding one using 'look and feel' but when I loaded it onto my Kindle I didn't see the option to select 'Publisher Font', was that because I hadn't removed the Fonts hack yet? I was testing it on a PW1, my PW2 arrives next week. I only read DRM free mobi's so converting through Calibre is what I do. I rarely read anything bought from Amazon. This is all new to me but I did like my own font. Thanks Jo Last edited by Josieb1; 10-11-2013 at 03:37 AM.

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latepaul Wizard Posts: 1,270 Karma: 10468300 Join Date: Dec 2011 Device: a variety (mostly kindles and kobos)	There are no font-family references in the source epub (including the css). I've checked and double-checked. What's odd is that if I change the file even a little bit it seems to fix the problem. I suspect there's some incorrect code somewhere that Sigil is auto-fixing and it's this that Calibre's getting confused by.

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