Paperwhite Second Gen: First Impressions - Page 56

levante · 10-08-2013, 05:04 AM

I live in Spain, my new paperwhite has arrived a few minutes ago.

Perfect screen, a little yellow compared with my PW1. Previously I returned two PW1.

ProfCrash · 10-08-2013, 06:53 AM

I read in bed last night. I had the lights off and had the PW2 set at about 25% of the light. It worked great. No issues.

bwaldron · 10-08-2013, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xendula

Maybe the tech makes it simply impossible to create exact results, and this is why the device screens vary. My second one is very yellow, while my first one resembles more a very much improved PW1: still has the pink and green background, but much less pronounced, and defintely not a yellow tint.

I would not describe my PW2 screen as yellow, but as a warm white in terms of color temperature. I like it.

I've now read a complete novel on it; with my light set at 7 the contrast is acceptable to me, even if lower than my previous few non-lighted Kindles.

ElspethB · 10-08-2013, 09:14 AM

I lucked out last year with my PW1. I preordered it when it was announced and received it on October 2. The screen was great with no color blotches. The light was a bit uneven at the bottom, but not at all distracting. I've spent hundreds of hours in the past year reading it in all light conditions and have been very happy.

When the PW2 was announced, I initially passed on preordering it, only to become intrigued by some of the new features and the promise of even sharper contrast. I ordered it last week and received it yesterday. Having read about the pinhole problem on this thread, I was relieved to see my PW2's screen was fine. No pinholes, blotches, or uneven lighting. In my well-lit office at work, when I placed the PW2 next to my PW1, I thought text looked slightly but noticeably sharper while the screen looked slightly yellow but not distractingly so. I thought I would be very happy with my new toy and proceeded to load my books onto it and start reading.

All was well until last night. I tend to read a lot in our dark bedroom. I generally set my PW1 to level 4, which provides a comfortable amount of light for me without straining my eyes or bothering my sleeping husband. Last night, when I tried out the PW2 in the darkened room, I was struck by how much yellower it appeared. At level 4 it was very dim and was unreadable. At levels 6-7 it started to approximate my PW1's level 4 but was still not as clear. I gave it a fair try but finally gave up.

I really don't understand why Amazon went for a yellower look to the screen when the device is called a PaperWHITE. I hope the next iteration of the PW is better, but in the meantime I'm happy to still have my PW1.

levante · 10-08-2013, 09:25 AM

Some comparations of my PWs: new 2 on the left, old 1 on the right.

Helgetus · 10-08-2013, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by levante

Some comparations of my PWs: new 2 on the left, old 1 on the right.

The left one is the new PW2? Well the white it looks lighter but the text looks lighter too. Then I noticed on the last picture that the PW frame is lighter too. Maybe that is due to uneven light onto the two kindles? Do you have a window on the left or other light source?

Edit: I noticed that also the background is lighter on the left ...

levante · 10-08-2013, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Helgetus

Do you have a window on the left or other light source?

Edit: I noticed that also the background is lighter on the left ...

Yes, you are right.

benjamin11900 · 10-08-2013, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by levante

Some comparations of my PWs: new 2 on the left, old 1 on the right.

It looks good. Any pinholes ? I can see on on your PW1 but not on the PW2.

Your screen looks off-center on your PW1.

arad26 · 10-08-2013, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Helgetus

The left one is the new PW2? Well the white it looks lighter but the text looks lighter too. Then I noticed on the last picture that the PW frame is lighter too. Maybe that is due to uneven light onto the two kindles? Do you have a window on the left or other light source?

Edit: I noticed that also the background is lighter on the left ...

I think i will keep my PW1 until the next Kindles are out next year.

dax123 · 10-08-2013, 11:34 AM

I'm beginning to think I'm better off canceling my order because in the last photos it definitely looks washed out on the PW2, both text and background on the PW1 looks definitely darker and sharper.

And hearing about pin holes etc..does not give me high hopes of getting a better device then the PW1..

I will have to make up my mind soon if I'll let it go through or cancel it and keep my PW1 for the time being.

sparklemotion · 10-08-2013, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by levante

Some comparations of my PWs: new 2 on the left, old 1 on the right.

What do you think of the PW2? Are you happy?

HarryT · 10-08-2013, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dax123

I'm beginning to think I'm better off canceling my order because in the last photos it definitely looks washed out on the PW2, both text and background on the PW1 looks definitely darker and sharper.

And hearing about pin holes etc..does not give me high hopes of getting a better device then the PW1..

I will have to make up my mind soon if I'll let it go through or cancel it and keep my PW1 for the time being.

What do you have to lose by letting your order go through? It'll cost you nothing to return it if you're not happy with it. Photographs are not good at representing what an eInk screen looks like "for real".

duydangle · 10-08-2013, 11:50 AM

My pw2 is coming next week but I don't know if I should keep it. Does pw1 have better text and contrast? My first pw1 looks perfect except uneven lighting from top to bottom, but it doesn't look bad. I don't know if the yellow things can effect my decision.

sparklemotion · 10-08-2013, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duydangle

My pw2 is coming next week but I don't know if I should keep it. Does pw1 have better text and contrast? My first pw1 looks perfect except uneven lighting from top to bottom, but it doesn't look bad. I don't know if the yellow things can effect my decision.

The 3 PW2's I have seen in person did not have better text and contrast at all, but that was just my experience. The 2 I had it seemed like I was looking through a yellow haze that made the text look faded. Others feel it does have better contrast. Personally, if my PW1 was perfect, I would not have tried out the PW2, but that is just me. For you, it might be worth it to pick one up and see what you think.

tubemonkey · 10-08-2013, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

What do you have to lose by letting your order go through? It'll cost you nothing to return it if you're not happy with it. Photographs are not good at representing what an eInk screen looks like "for real".

In the US, you pay return shipping costs for non-defective items. What about Europe?

10-08-2013, 09:14 AM	#829
ElspethB Passionate Reader Posts: 276 Karma: 1829152 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Central Jersey, USA Device: Samsung Galaxy Tab S3, Kobo Clara HD, Fire HD 8, Voyage, Oasis 3, PW5	Paperyellow? I lucked out last year with my PW1. I preordered it when it was announced and received it on October 2. The screen was great with no color blotches. The light was a bit uneven at the bottom, but not at all distracting. I've spent hundreds of hours in the past year reading it in all light conditions and have been very happy. When the PW2 was announced, I initially passed on preordering it, only to become intrigued by some of the new features and the promise of even sharper contrast. I ordered it last week and received it yesterday. Having read about the pinhole problem on this thread, I was relieved to see my PW2's screen was fine. No pinholes, blotches, or uneven lighting. In my well-lit office at work, when I placed the PW2 next to my PW1, I thought text looked slightly but noticeably sharper while the screen looked slightly yellow but not distractingly so. I thought I would be very happy with my new toy and proceeded to load my books onto it and start reading. All was well until last night. I tend to read a lot in our dark bedroom. I generally set my PW1 to level 4, which provides a comfortable amount of light for me without straining my eyes or bothering my sleeping husband. Last night, when I tried out the PW2 in the darkened room, I was struck by how much yellower it appeared. At level 4 it was very dim and was unreadable. At levels 6-7 it started to approximate my PW1's level 4 but was still not as clear. I gave it a fair try but finally gave up. I really don't understand why Amazon went for a yellower look to the screen when the device is called a PaperWHITE. I hope the next iteration of the PW is better, but in the meantime I'm happy to still have my PW1.

10-08-2013, 09:25 AM	#830
levante Connoisseur Posts: 53 Karma: 92908 Join Date: Jan 2013 Device: kindle NT, PW1, PW2, Kobo H2O	Some comparations of my PWs: new 2 on the left, old 1 on the right. Attached Thumbnails

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10-08-2013, 05:04 AM	#826
levante Connoisseur Posts: 53 Karma: 92908 Join Date: Jan 2013 Device: kindle NT, PW1, PW2, Kobo H2O	I live in Spain, my new paperwhite has arrived a few minutes ago. Perfect screen, a little yellow compared with my PW1. Previously I returned two PW1.

10-08-2013, 06:53 AM	#827
ProfCrash Tea Enthusiast Posts: 8,554 Karma: 75384937 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Somewhere in the USA Device: Kindle1, Kindle DX Graphite, K3 3G, IPad 3, PW2	I read in bed last night. I had the lights off and had the PW2 set at about 25% of the light. It worked great. No issues.

10-08-2013, 11:34 AM	#835
dax123 Connoisseur Posts: 70 Karma: 700052 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Netherlands Device: Silver PRS 600, Red PRS 650, Kindle 3 WiFi (Keyboard), Kindle 4 basic	I'm beginning to think I'm better off canceling my order because in the last photos it definitely looks washed out on the PW2, both text and background on the PW1 looks definitely darker and sharper. And hearing about pin holes etc..does not give me high hopes of getting a better device then the PW1.. I will have to make up my mind soon if I'll let it go through or cancel it and keep my PW1 for the time being.

10-08-2013, 11:50 AM	#838
duydangle Connoisseur Posts: 66 Karma: 480010 Join Date: Aug 2013 Device: PW\|PW3	My pw2 is coming next week but I don't know if I should keep it. Does pw1 have better text and contrast? My first pw1 looks perfect except uneven lighting from top to bottom, but it doesn't look bad. I don't know if the yellow things can effect my decision.