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Old 09-25-2013, 04:07 PM   #46
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No one has received their units yet. Videos and pictures have photo lens corruption. We won't really know until next week.

When I took a photo of my 2012 Paperwhite screen, everyone here saw all kinds of blotches which were never visible on the unit, itself.

I've also ordered the KFHDX 2013 7" 32 Gb WiFi which I will receive on Oct. 18, 2013. I have a hunch both 2013 units will blow away the "old" 2012 units.

If you postpone your orders, you may not even receive them by Christmas once public demand soars.
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Old 09-25-2013, 04:36 PM   #47
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Do you mean an overall pink shade or do you mean you're seeing distinct pink blobs?
Blobs unfortunately

Photographer by trade, so my monitors are calibrated but obviously no idea as to the accuracy of the colour balance on the video.

Edit: and I guess those of us who are used to dealing with images have our eyes and brains quite possibly trained to see what is wrong more than most people.

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Old 09-25-2013, 04:36 PM   #48
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No it is there and not JPEG compression. You eyes/mind just don't detect it. And that is cool, and for the better. But some of us do see it regardless of whether you do.
Of course there is JPEG compression, or rather whatever the video equivalent of JPEG compression is. Notice that the light part you circled is the entire section where no text appears. So maybe the light is doing something different there because of that? Or maybe it appears smoother/lighter on the video since it's a solid smooth area? Or maybe it is color blotches on the screen. No way of knowing until you have one in your hand.

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Old 09-25-2013, 05:02 PM   #49
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Blobs unfortunately

Photographer by trade, so my monitors are calibrated but obviously no idea as to the accuracy of the colour balance on the video.

Edit: and I guess those of us who are used to dealing with images have our eyes and brains quite possibly trained to see what is wrong more than most people.
I think this is the first instance I actually don't see them. Hmmm.... I wonder what I'll think in person. To me the one on the left is a total mess, but the new PW looks clean and white. Maybe my color blob sensitivity has decreased! hee hee.
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Old 09-25-2013, 05:05 PM   #50
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No it is there and not JPEG compression. You eyes/mind just don't detect it.
Oh, they do detect it. I've been taking pictures and working with calibrated high-quality screens for close to a decade now. I can see the shadows you outline quite clearly, and I can see any color shift in an area that was supposed to be neutral.

What I meant was: my KPW doesn't have them. If it had, I would see them. It also has no color shifts; it only has the 4 shadowy blobs on the bottom that they all have.

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Edit: and I guess those of us who are used to dealing with images have our eyes and brains quite possibly trained to see what is wrong more than most people.
I can assure you of that quite clearly. Before 2004, I had no problem with any monitor. Now, if my monitor is not calibrated, I go crazy as I can see any color shifting. I actually take my calibrator to work and obtain permission to install it. My colleagues at some point invariably realize that their monitors are either purple, blue, green, yellow, or orange, when compared to mine

OK... I'm playing this a bit "falsch" (as Gollum would say it). Everybody knows my eyesight is bad, so if I want something changed, the only thing I need to say is: "It's required because of my eyesight problems", and nobody asks any questions anymore if I want to change anything to a weird setting

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Old 09-25-2013, 09:19 PM   #51
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I think this is the first instance I actually don't see them. Hmmm.... I wonder what I'll think in person. To me the one on the left is a total mess, but the new PW looks clean and white. Maybe my color blob sensitivity has decreased! hee hee.
I'm with Sparkle on this one: I watched the video carefully and did not see any color blobs on the new PW, while I see the green and pink blotches all over the old one.

I am one of the people who saw the blotches on every single init they received last year and ended up settling for the least bad devices, so I feel I "deserve" a good unit this time around.

Very hopeful that the bruised screens are all in the past!!!
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Old 09-27-2013, 02:19 PM   #52
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Another quick comparative:




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zol9lvCsONs


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Old 09-27-2013, 02:37 PM   #53
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Did the New PW come out in other countries 1st? How can they even Have it when its not do out til Oct??
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Old 09-27-2013, 03:21 PM   #54
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Did the New PW come out in other countries 1st? How can they even Have it when its not do out til Oct??
Because Amazon gave them to select reviewers/blogs early.
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Another quick comparative:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zol9lvCsONs


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Here's the written article that accompanies that video: http://reviews.cnet.com/kindle-paperwhite/
The review should be up later today.

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Old 09-27-2013, 07:10 PM   #56
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Ok that screen looks really good, can Amazon please send me one at least as good as that review unit please
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Old 09-27-2013, 07:54 PM   #57
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ya, the screen seems to look a lot better in comparison to the PW1.


Really wonder if the quality will be like that among all units...
I'll just wait until the first people receive their PW2

If quality varies too much I'll cancel my pre-order (Germany).

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It's really simple: if you want to embed a youtube video, use "youtube" tags as follows:

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2. You insert the text: [ youtube ]Zol9lvCsONs[ /youtube ] in your post (without the spaces). Only insert the video ID between the "youtube" tags, not the complete URL!
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Old 09-28-2013, 04:33 AM   #59
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Interesting comparison. The side by side shot with the Aura at the very end does have the Kindle looking slightly whiter although who knows if the light levels were the same.
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Old 09-28-2013, 05:09 AM   #60
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Really wonder if the quality will be like that among all units...
Yep that's the big question.

We saw the huge variations with the PW1 screens, I really hope they've learnt from that and aren't making the same mistake again. I would guess though that they're probably quite keen to minimise the number of returns this time, so a screen that doesn't look like a dog's dinner would certainly help

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