|  09-24-2013, 08:11 PM | #46 | |
| cacoethes scribendi            Posts: 5,818 Karma: 137770742 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Australia Device: Kobo Aura One & H2Ov2, Sony PRS-650 | Quote: 
  I don't I've changed the document background in LibreOffice to pale gray. | |
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|  09-24-2013, 08:45 PM | #47 | |
| Member Retired            Posts: 3,183 Karma: 11721895 Join Date: Nov 2010 Device: Nook STR (rooted) & Sony T2 | Quote: 
  I guess white-background doesn't bother a lot of people. Also, I don't like all the clutter of functions that I will never use. I don't mind if they are there (though I'd rather they're not), but I certainly don't want to look at them. | |
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|  09-24-2013, 10:09 PM | #48 | 
| Junior Member            Posts: 9 Karma: 470352 Join Date: Jun 2012 Device: Nook | 
			
			Scrivener and Lucida Sans on a Mac. Pretty much use LS for everything on screen, these days. It doesn't strain my eyes like Times and is easy to skim through text on screen to find something I'm looking for. I've always been a complete font geek and after years of trying different typefaces I definitely believe that staring at a properly constructed font makes me more productive. But I don't care for the way Windows renders Lucida Sans. On Windows I've been moving toward the newer versions of Segoe UI. I won't even get into the problems I had deciding on a print font for my books before finally settleing on Berthold Garamond. | 
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|  09-25-2013, 04:54 AM | #49 | ||
| cacoethes scribendi            Posts: 5,818 Karma: 137770742 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Australia Device: Kobo Aura One & H2Ov2, Sony PRS-650 | Quote: 
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  I don't actually see it being "least graceful", I don't mind it as a sans-serif font, but I can't see myself using it for writing. Last edited by gmw; 09-25-2013 at 04:56 AM. | ||
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|  09-25-2013, 11:41 AM | #50 | 
| Junior Member            Posts: 9 Karma: 470352 Join Date: Jun 2012 Device: Nook | 
			
			Yeah, I can see why that would be traumatic. But it's why there are thousands of typefaces available--find one that works for you, even though the vast majority of them are not very good. For example, Times Roman, which everybody swears by, because they have been staring at it their entire lives, was created, by the newspaper of the same name, specifically to pack as much text as closely as possible, with readability being a secondary consideration. I get a headache looking at it. But Lucida and an increasing number of other typefaces were designed to be used interactively on (relatively) low resolution monitors as opposed to static reading on a printed page. I would recommend looking at fonts for the purposes behind their designs. I would never use the same font on screen that I would use in a printed book. That difference is also why I use sans serif fonts for writing. Even on my retina display Macbook Pro, serifs get blurred and mangled at small sizes. So much for the readability of serif typefaces. | 
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|  09-25-2013, 01:22 PM | #51 | 
| Bujavid tekikin            Posts: 139 Karma: 40366 Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Malaysia Device: LG G3 D855, Samsung Galaxy Note N7000 | 
			
			For heavy duty serious stuff, whatever the default font is in MS Word-- last I checked that was Calibri or something. I tend to zoom up to 150% in any case for ease of reading.  If it's for my occasional bout of creative fiction writing, WriteMonkey (grey text on black background, Garamond font). Again, lots of zoom involved. Why court eyestrain with small fonts?   | 
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|  09-25-2013, 03:18 PM | #52 | 
| Guru            Posts: 802 Karma: 4727110 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Sweden Device: Iriver Story | 
			
			For film scripts I used a fantastic program whose name I forget - the developer just walked away from it back in about 2006 - and, of course, Courier 12 pt. First novel: LibreOffice and TNR Second and future novels: Scrivener and Linux Libertine, a free TNR clone. | 
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|  09-25-2013, 05:47 PM | #53 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 2,230 Karma: 7145404 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southern California Device: Kindle Voyage & iPhone 7+ | 
			
			Rizla, did MS drop out page background color in Word 2013?   I'm using Word 2010 and that function is there (Ribbon: Page Layout Tab, Page Background section, Page Color dropdown).
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|  09-26-2013, 08:16 AM | #54 | 
| Member Retired            Posts: 3,183 Karma: 11721895 Join Date: Nov 2010 Device: Nook STR (rooted) & Sony T2 | 
			
			I suppose you can 'hard-code' the background and font color, but then that will be part of the document (i.e. if you print it, it will come out in that color). Previously, you could set it so that the colors only changed as a viewing option and weren't part of the document. At least, that's what I understand.
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|  09-26-2013, 09:54 AM | #55 | |
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|  09-26-2013, 11:56 AM | #56 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 2,146 Karma: 11174187 Join Date: Jan 2011 Device: Sony 350, K3-3G, K4SO, KPW | 
			
			I have Scrivener (for PC) but I just have never been comfortable with its interface. I tend to write in Word and then import into Scrivener for formatting to epub. I edit the epub with Sigil and then use Kindlegen to convert to mobi if I need that format. but then, I write collections of short stories, so my needs are different than someone who writes novels. And since I'm a technical writer in my real life, I'm just more comfortable with the Word interface. | 
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|  09-26-2013, 12:09 PM | #57 | 
| Bujavid tekikin            Posts: 139 Karma: 40366 Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Malaysia Device: LG G3 D855, Samsung Galaxy Note N7000 | 
			
			Writemonkey allows for formatting through use of Markdown syntax. Not bad, though I tend to have to keep referring to the Markdown cheat sheet on hand. There was another program, Windows only called Q10 that worked about the same way as Writemonkey or Darkroom but let you use standard controls for formatting bold and italics, which I actually liked better; the dev vanished some years back and it's more or less abandonware now, last I looked.
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|  09-26-2013, 02:23 PM | #58 | |
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|  09-26-2013, 05:17 PM | #59 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 2,230 Karma: 7145404 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southern California Device: Kindle Voyage & iPhone 7+ | 
			
			That brings up an interesting question.  What more is required from a "dedicated word processor" that you feel Scrivener doesn't do? I can just about use Word with my eyes closed, being forced to use it on a daily basis. But for my personal writing I'm not seeing anything I miss in Scrivener (the Mac version I'm using now is slightly slicker than the Windows version). My sense is that Scrivener not only puts the tools more front-and-center for straight writing tasks (e.g. better full-screen no-distraction mode, corkboard view, typewriter mode) but also connects meta-data to the writing in more ways (notes for whole document and each individual tab-level, tags and real custom meta-tags, in-line and foot/end style annotation). | 
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|  09-26-2013, 06:39 PM | #60 | 
| Zealot            Posts: 104 Karma: 2175016 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: rural Illinois, USA Device: Kindle | 
			
			Now, that is interesting! I did not know this. Anyway, I think the magic of this thread is that we all, in our own little self-defined cubicles, work away on our manuscripts on one program and font or another. It's the one thing we have in common. And I think our discussion of it here, helps us alleviate some of our self-imposed isolation.
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