New PaperWhite firmware 5.3.8 - Page 3

ixtab · 09-07-2013, 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Blossom

Maybe now we got this feature some new ones will pop up.

This "new" feature isn't exactly rocket science... It's simply about looking up a word in all dictionaries of a given language, instead of only the first one. JBPatch already provided this 9 months ago. But yeah, I'm glad that Amazon listens to at least *some* of the users' wishes.

Blossom · 09-07-2013, 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ixtab

This "new" feature isn't exactly rocket science... It's simply about looking up a word in all dictionaries of a given language, instead of only the first one. JBPatch already provided this 9 months ago. But yeah, I'm glad that Amazon listens to at least *some* of the users' wishes.

It was much needed that is for sure!

I now have 4 dictionaries at my fingertips.

I don't jailbreak my Kindles well I did my K4S once but not my PW.

I don't see Amazon updating the K4 for this feature but here's hoping!

kindleBunny · 09-07-2013, 03:47 PM

Is the screensaver hack still working for those that upgraded? I have a feeling I did something wrong. I may have lost my jailbreak :/

arad26 · 09-07-2013, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by kindleBunny

Is the screensaver hack still working for those that upgraded? I have a feeling I did something wrong. I may have lost my jailbreak :/

I updated and i lost it as well

.....so started all over again : installed firmware 5.3.1 then jailbreak then 5.3.8 and then the screensaver hack. Now its all good.

kindleBunny · 09-07-2013, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by arad26

I updated and i lost it as well

.....so started all over again : installed firmware 5.3.1 then jailbreak then 5.3.8 and then the screensaver hack. Now its all good.

Doing the same, as we speak. But using 5.3.5. Should be ok, right?

arad26 · 09-08-2013, 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by kindleBunny

Doing the same, as we speak. But using 5.3.5. Should be ok, right?

If on the jailbreak instructions it is said that its ok then go ahead. With 5.3.1 is 100% safe.

kindleBunny · 09-08-2013, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by arad26

If on the jailbreak instructions it is said that its ok then go ahead. With 5.3.1 is 100% safe.

It worked with 5.3.5 as well. Thanks for your suggestion.

Sideromelane · 09-08-2013, 07:14 AM

Doesn't really seem worth the hassle of upgrading. Dictionaries are of limited utility to me anyway, they don't seem to be able to handle the weird substitute words that sci-fi and fantasy writers are SO keen on.

Is there anything of note aside from dictionary stuff that makes the hassle of updating worth it?

Julius Caesar · 09-11-2013, 07:15 AM

This is a huge improvement but there is still one nagging problem with Kindle dictionary. See attachment:

See why the dictionary is unable to find the definition? That is because the dash connect the word Commisioners and five. If there is a space between the dash and the word Commisoners, there won't be a problem. But there is no space there so when I tap the word Commisoners, the word five is highlighted too and the dictionary tries to find the meaning of the combined words Commisoners-five which is of course not in its entries.

elemenoP · 09-11-2013, 08:54 AM

That problem seems like it would be very easy for Kindle developers to fix, if only they were aware of it! After all, that's an em-dash between Commissioners and five, not a regular dash. The software should be able to tell the difference, it's a different character. I have also sometimes wanted to "adjust" a word in cases like this, or turn a plural word into singular when the dictionary didn't find it (even though it knows most plural words).

eP

wawasteele · 09-11-2013, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Julius Caesar

See why the dictionary is unable to find the definition? That is because the dash connect the word Commisioners and five. If there is a space between the dash and the word Commisoners, there won't be a problem. But there is no space there so when I tap the word Commisoners, the word five is highlighted too and the dictionary tries to find the meaning of the combined words Commisoners-five which is of course not in its entries.

This happens all to frequently to me.

jswinden · 09-11-2013, 03:47 PM

Even if a hyphen was used rather than an em or en dash, the dictionary should still attempt to look up the word(s) and give you options to choose from. How difficult would it be to look up the word up to the hyphen/dash? Not difficult at all. They could easily fix this by offering us the option to look up the word up to the hyphen/dash and any hyphenated words based on that one. But as usual, Amazon never listens to us so they probably don't know this issue exists.

ams · 09-12-2013, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Julius Caesar

See why the dictionary is unable to find the definition? That is because the dash connect the word Commisioners and five. If there is a space between the dash and the word Commisoners, there won't be a problem. But there is no space there so when I tap the word Commisoners, the word five is highlighted too and the dictionary tries to find the meaning of the combined words Commisoners-five which is of course not in its entries.

You can fix this by editing the book: simply replace "—" by "—". What this does is putting zero width spaces between the word and the em-dash. This way, the dictionary lookup works (at least on K3 and KT with KF8 books).

For old mobi7 files better use ‌ instead to also allow line breaks at the em-dash. See http://hisdeedsaredust.com/2012/01/t...on-the-kindle/.

Skibble · 09-13-2013, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ams

You can fix this by editing the book: simply replace "—" by "—". What this does is putting zero width spaces between the word and the em-dash. This way, the dictionary lookup works (at least on K3 and KT with KF8 books).

I'm going to try this the next time I add a new book to my PW. Thanks so much!

jswinden · 09-13-2013, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ams

You can fix this by editing the book: simply replace "—" by "—". What this does is putting zero width spaces between the word and the em-dash. This way, the dictionary lookup works (at least on K3 and KT with KF8 books).

For old mobi7 files better use ‌ instead to also allow line breaks at the em-dash. See http://hisdeedsaredust.com/2012/01/t...on-the-kindle/.

Yes, but you shouldn't have to. The firmware for the dictionary should be intelligent enough to recognize hyphens, emdashes, endashes, etc. The vast majority of people reading books on a Kindle will not have a clue as to how to modify an eBook.

09-11-2013, 07:15 AM	#39
Julius Caesar Addict Posts: 343 Karma: 1510042 Join Date: Oct 2012 Device: Kindle Paperwhite	This is a huge improvement but there is still one nagging problem with Kindle dictionary. See attachment: See why the dictionary is unable to find the definition? That is because the dash connect the word Commisioners and five. If there is a space between the dash and the word Commisoners, there won't be a problem. But there is no space there so when I tap the word Commisoners, the word five is highlighted too and the dictionary tries to find the meaning of the combined words Commisoners-five which is of course not in its entries. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by Julius Caesar; 09-11-2013 at 07:22 AM.

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kindleBunny Bunny Posts: 64 Karma: 554258 Join Date: May 2011 Location: Addic7ed Device: Kindle PW2 Wifi	Is the screensaver hack still working for those that upgraded? I have a feeling I did something wrong. I may have lost my jailbreak :/

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Sideromelane FYIAD Posts: 15 Karma: 27492 Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Scotland Device: Kindle Paperwhite	Doesn't really seem worth the hassle of upgrading. Dictionaries are of limited utility to me anyway, they don't seem to be able to handle the weird substitute words that sci-fi and fantasy writers are SO keen on. Is there anything of note aside from dictionary stuff that makes the hassle of updating worth it?

09-11-2013, 08:54 AM	#40
elemenoP Wizard Posts: 1,717 Karma: 3790058 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: NYC Device: Kindle Paperwhite, Sony 650	That problem seems like it would be very easy for Kindle developers to fix, if only they were aware of it! After all, that's an em-dash between Commissioners and five, not a regular dash. The software should be able to tell the difference, it's a different character. I have also sometimes wanted to "adjust" a word in cases like this, or turn a plural word into singular when the dictionary didn't find it (even though it knows most plural words). eP

09-11-2013, 03:47 PM	#42
jswinden Nameless Being	Even if a hyphen was used rather than an em or en dash, the dictionary should still attempt to look up the word(s) and give you options to choose from. How difficult would it be to look up the word up to the hyphen/dash? Not difficult at all. They could easily fix this by offering us the option to look up the word up to the hyphen/dash and any hyphenated words based on that one. But as usual, Amazon never listens to us so they probably don't know this issue exists.