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Old 09-07-2013, 09:30 AM   #316
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What a bummer, I got excited about the night mode! Why don't they have this? When I see screensavers/ads that are black with white type, they look nice and sharp.

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Old 09-07-2013, 09:59 AM   #317
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That doesn't look too bad. I hate the night mode used by some iOS and Android apps because the dark area is too black and the text is too white resulting in my eyes seeing lines whenever I look away from the reader. In other words, the contrast is too great to be useful. But since eInk screens are more dark grey and light grey it might work without that effect. To see how a too contrasty screen looks, see this link: http://www.dpreview.com/. I have to change my browser color settings just to view it.
I hate websites that use white text on a black background. To me they are almost unreadable and a sever strain on my old eyes! However, if the background were more grey it mitigates this effect for me.
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Old 09-07-2013, 10:17 AM   #318
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What a bummer, I got excited about the night mode! Why don't they have this? When I see screensavers/ads that are black with white type, they look nice and sharp.

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Would this even work for an eInk device? The light doesn't come from the back of the device but the front. It doesn't matter if the screen is black, the light still covers the whole of it.
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Old 09-07-2013, 10:31 AM   #319
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Would this even work for an eInk device? The light doesn't come from the back of the device but the front. It doesn't matter if the screen is black, the light still covers the whole of it.
I'm not sure. That shot is a frame from the video, so the kindle does actually do that, so I suppose in terms of hardware it is possible.

The Kobo has a night-mode hack and Coolreader includes one too. I wonder if it would make the front-light more usable in very dark environments. I don't think it's that big a deal to implement. I have it on a Nook ST in Coolreader, but without a front-light, it's pointless.
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Old 09-07-2013, 10:32 AM   #320
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What a bummer, I got excited about the night mode! Why don't they have this? When I see screensavers/ads that are black with white type, they look nice and sharp.

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Sorry 'bout that. Was just having a little fun, and I was wondering if something like this would be useful.
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Old 09-07-2013, 10:35 AM   #321
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I read about it...25% faster urine production. However, you still have the same sized bladder. I don't think it'll catch on.

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Old 09-07-2013, 11:07 AM   #322
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Would this even work for an eInk device? The light doesn't come from the back of the device but the front. It doesn't matter if the screen is black, the light still covers the whole of it.
Yes it works on eink. When I got an Onyx Firefly, the cool reader app was set in night mode. Hated it! It was a relief to finally figure out how to turn that off.
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Old 09-07-2013, 11:22 AM   #323
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Would this even work for an eInk device? The light doesn't come from the back of the device but the front. It doesn't matter if the screen is black, the light still covers the whole of it.
Yes, there are eInk readers that have this feature.

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I'm not sure. That shot is a frame from the video, so the kindle does actually do that, so I suppose in terms of hardware it is possible.

The Kobo has a night-mode hack and Coolreader includes one too. I wonder if it would make the front-light more usable in very dark environments. I don't think it's that big a deal to implement. I have it on a Nook ST in Coolreader, but without a front-light, it's pointless.
I think it would cut way down on any color/shadow blobs that might exist. I've tried in the past to use CSS to create a book with this night mode for my Kindle Touch, but Amazon's FW either overwrites or ignores a black background turning it white. I don't remember what it did with the white text. I haven't tried this in at least a year, but I doubt they have changed the FW to allow it.
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Old 09-07-2013, 11:30 AM   #324
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I am an amateur astrophotographer too, do you hang out over on CloudyNights forums much?

An e-reader is a great companion for long nights out at the scope.
No, I didn't know about that forum, but I will be checking it out now. I live in a bright area in the southern part of the Dallas/Fort Worth metro, so I don't see many night sky objects. However, I try to make the best out of a bad location and try to go to a state park 70 miles to my northwest when I can.
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Old 09-07-2013, 11:30 AM   #325
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Oh I have no doubt that you can reverse the lights and blacks on an eInk reader but what is the point? It's done on tablets because it reduces the amount of light coming out of the tablets. But in an eInk reader the light doesn't come from the back. I don't see how having a black background reduces the amount of light that a front light would produce. It seems like it would be a fake night mode.
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Old 09-07-2013, 11:42 AM   #326
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Oh I have no doubt that you can reverse the lights and blacks on an eInk reader but what is the point? It's done on tablets because it reduces the amount of light coming out of the tablets. But in an eInk reader the light doesn't come from the back. I don't see how having a black background reduces the amount of light that a front light would produce. It seems like it would be a fake night mode.
Since I've never been able to reproduce the effect on a eInk reader, I cannot really answer that. However, I suspect it would still reduce glare from a front light as that light will be falling on a dark background rather than a white background. I've heard some people complaining that their front lit eInk reader is too bright at the lowest setting for a dark room, so this MIGHT help out. Would it work for me or you, who knows.
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Old 09-07-2013, 11:51 AM   #327
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(either that or it's for reading piss-poor novels! SCNR )
I thought it was a medical condition brought on by drinking heavily of a concoction of Absolut and a good-quality chlorine bleach.

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Old 09-07-2013, 12:41 PM   #328
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Since I've never been able to reproduce the effect on a eInk reader, I cannot really answer that. However, I suspect it would still reduce glare from a front light as that light will be falling on a dark background rather than a white background. I've heard some people complaining that their front lit eInk reader is too bright at the lowest setting for a dark room, so this MIGHT help out. Would it work for me or you, who knows.
Maybe you could try to replicate the effect with an image of white text and black background or even a completely black image. I kind of doubt it would help much.

I seem to remember a hack for the Sony PRS 500 that reversed back and white. It looked horrible.
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Maybe you could try to replicate the effect with an image of white text and black background or even a completely black image. I kind of doubt it would help much.

I seem to remember a hack for the Sony PRS 500 that reversed back and white. It looked horrible.
I actually did that a few years ago. I cannot remember for which reader, but I think it was a pre-Pearl screen. Back then blacks were not very dark and whites were very grey. I did not like the way it looked, but that was with a non-lighted screen and I viewed it during the day in a well lit room. I think it might be different to some degree on a lighted screen in a dark room.

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