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Old 09-04-2013, 09:47 AM   #151
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If you didn't buy it at Amazon, it's not a "Kindle book". Would you expect Amazon to give you a digital version of a CD that you didn't buy from them?
Actually I am not expecting anything at all, I just made a statement questioning if it was limited to Amazon purchases. This is a moot feature for me because I have already purchased 90% of my previous physical books in ebook format.
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Old 09-04-2013, 09:49 AM   #152
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Exactly. The previous poster, however, said 30th September. That's the shipping date for the WiFi version, not 3G.
Sorry the previous poster did not realize she was quoting for the 3G version and not the wifi version. No need to be nasty.
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Old 09-04-2013, 09:51 AM   #153
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Actually I am not expecting anything at all, I just made a statement questioning if it was limited to Amazon purchases. This is a moot feature for me because I have already purchased 90% of my previous physical books in ebook format.
This is specifically an Amazon program, so it's safe to suppose that it will only apply to books purchased at Amazon.
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Old 09-04-2013, 09:53 AM   #154
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This is specifically an Amazon program, so it's safe to suppose that it will only apply to books purchased at Amazon.
That's what I was figuring, it does seem like a nice idea, hopefully some will benefit from it.
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Old 09-04-2013, 10:13 AM   #155
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How much does it cost to return it? And is the buyer's remorse you'll feel for purchasing the old version days before the new one came out worth the difference?
The main concern is that I don't know when it will be avaliable for international purchases
I can't pre-order the new PW to an address outside US right now.

Has anyone seen any news regarding avaliability for international shipping?
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Old 09-04-2013, 10:14 AM   #156
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The main concern is that I don't know when it will be avaliable for international purchases
I can't pre-order the new PW to an address outside US right now.

Has anyone seen any news regarding avaliability for international shipping?
In Canada the new Paperwhite says:

Pre-order now
This item starts shipping on October 10, 2013.
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Old 09-04-2013, 10:16 AM   #157
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The main concern is that I don't know when it will be avaliable for international purchases
I can't pre-order the new PW to an address outside US right now.

Has anyone seen any news regarding avaliability for international shipping?
Different dates in different countries. It's available in the UK, Germany, and France on 9th October.
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Old 09-04-2013, 10:46 AM   #158
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A completely flat screen removes the tactile separation between the bezel and the screen area which is useful when turning the page. I occasionally struggle with this on my iPad (which is of course also completely flat). Being able to feel the "step" between the bezel and the screen is useful in knowing where to tap to turn the page on the current PW.
Even if that is true putting on a suitable cover will solve that problem easily.
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Old 09-04-2013, 10:50 AM   #159
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Here's a little more information on the new screen tech. It claims a 50% increase in screen contrast as opposed to the 25% mentioned in one of the articles.

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E Ink Carta displays utilize a new electronic ink formulation and technology to provide a dramatic 50 percent improvement in contrast ratio and over 20 percent improvement in reflectance over previous generations of E Ink displays for a remarkably improved viewing and reading experience.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/e-ink-...130000456.html

I'll have to see it in person before I can decide on upgrading. It'd be a significant step up from my old Kindle 3.
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Old 09-04-2013, 11:52 AM   #160
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This article from Time has more info and a hands on: http://techland.time.com/2013/09/03/...ined-e-reader/
That article includes the following, which leaves me quite hopeful that I'll get the things I want (Goodreads, Wikipedia/context-sensitive lookup, Maybe page scrubbing, too):

"And current Paperwhite owners who do covet the new model’s goodies may eventually get some of them: Amazon says that it hopes to release a software update for the original model, giving it new features that aren’t contingent on the latest model’s upgraded hardware and faster processor."

I'm not unhappy with the refresh rate. I have noticed that clearing the lookup window (Game of Thrones uses a lot of archaic words I'm not familiar with until I look them up once each - I've learned a lot of English words that have fallen out of use!) leaves darker text behind where it was, but the normal text darkness when looking at a page I've just turned to doesn't seem too light.

I'll be showing my Paperwhite to a friend this coming weekend, and she's said that if she likes it as much as she thinks she will, she'll buy one! So I may yet get to compare new and old directly. She doesn't currently own an ereader, and I think this will be a great first one for anyone, especially people like the two of us who like reading in the dark in bed.

Of course, I could always give her my old Kindle Touch if she doesn't want to spend $120 right now. Hm.
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Old 09-04-2013, 12:10 PM   #161
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The main concern is that I don't know when it will be avaliable for international purchases
I can't pre-order the new PW to an address outside US right now.

Has anyone seen any news regarding avaliability for international shipping?
I just tried to pre-order it to an address outside US (link) ant I think it's possible.

All-New Kindle Paperwhite
Wi-Fi, All-New Paperwhite Display, High Resolution, High Contrast, Next-Gen Built-in Light
$139.00

Free Super Saver Shipping Details
Pre-order now
This item starts shipping on October 15, 2013.
Ships from and sold by Amazon Digital Services.
Important Information
To ship Kindle outside the U.S. view important information specific to your country.

Selected Country: Croatia
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Old 09-04-2013, 12:17 PM   #162
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"And current Paperwhite owners who do covet the new model’s goodies may eventually get some of them: Amazon says that it hopes to release a software update for the original model, giving it new features that aren’t contingent on the latest model’s upgraded hardware and faster processor."
This would be entirely in accordance with what Amazon have done previously. Shortly after the release of the original PW, the Touch got a firmware update which gave it the PW's new UI.
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Old 09-04-2013, 12:19 PM   #163
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For Italy:
9th October:wi-fi http://www.amazon.it/gp/product/B00CTUKFNQ/ref=p3g
12th November: 3g http://www.amazon.it/gp/product/B00CUVGB6Y/ref=fs_p
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For Italy:
9th October:wi-fi http://www.amazon.it/gp/product/B00CTUKFNQ/ref=p3g
12th November: 3g http://www.amazon.it/gp/product/B00CUVGB6Y/ref=fs_p
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Yep - same dates as UK, France, and Germany.
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Old 09-04-2013, 12:57 PM   #165
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After countless returns, I settled for a PW1 I could live with. I still see the color blotches if I look for them, but most of the time I ignore them now.
Would love the Goodreads intergation, and even if it never makes it to the PW1 firmware, it would not convince me to get the PW2: there are just not too many changes.

If, however, users report a droolworthy lighting tech, and a white screen, I will reconsider.
Awww, I was hoping you would get one and let us know about the light! You are one of the few I would trust on such reviews as, like me, you went through plenty of bad PW1 units. I guess we are both going to wait on non-fanboy/girl reviews that are more objective than most reviews.

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