|  08-23-2013, 02:31 PM | #61 | 
| Inharmonious            Posts: 416 Karma: 2157616 Join Date: Jan 2013 Device: Sony PRS-950, Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 | 
			
			You do know that's simply a figure of speech, don't you, rather than a statement of "this is an unequivocal fact"?  The fact involved is, quite obviously, that to me your ambition is a scary one.
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|  08-23-2013, 02:34 PM | #62 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 2,372 Karma: 9026681 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Colorado Device: Kindle Paperwhite 2nd Gen | 
			
			Well, I think I'll just leave here.  Have a nice day.
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|  08-23-2013, 02:36 PM | #63 | 
| Faerie Godmother            Posts: 243 Karma: 6544888 Join Date: Aug 2013 Device: K3, Kobo Mini | 
			
			I totally agree! Nothing drives me more crazy than hearing that a song made someone's kid a drug addict, murderer, robber, or whatever brand of criminal he/she turned into. Parents need to take responsibility for their parenting choices.
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|  08-23-2013, 02:38 PM | #64 | 
| Inharmonious            Posts: 416 Karma: 2157616 Join Date: Jan 2013 Device: Sony PRS-950, Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 | |
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|  08-23-2013, 02:44 PM | #65 | |
| SQUIRREL!!            Posts: 1,636 Karma: 8400000 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: California Device: K-Fire, PW2, PW3 | 
			
			Since I think we can easily agree to disagree, maybe we should return to the OP's question.... Quote: 
 To all of us parents and soon to be parents, good luck and stay vigilant!   | |
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|  08-23-2013, 02:52 PM | #66 | 
| Inharmonious            Posts: 416 Karma: 2157616 Join Date: Jan 2013 Device: Sony PRS-950, Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 | 
			
			Or as I would prefer to put it: sit back, pour yourself a glass of wine, let the shoulders down and allow the kids to be kids.  I'm all behind the good luck part though.
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|  08-23-2013, 03:14 PM | #67 | 
| Faerie Godmother            Posts: 243 Karma: 6544888 Join Date: Aug 2013 Device: K3, Kobo Mini | |
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|  08-23-2013, 03:21 PM | #68 | |
| Guru            Posts: 974 Karma: 4999999 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Rosario, Argentina Device: SONY PRS-T2, Kindle Paperwhite 11th gen | Quote: 
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|  08-23-2013, 03:50 PM | #69 | |
| Inharmonious            Posts: 416 Karma: 2157616 Join Date: Jan 2013 Device: Sony PRS-950, Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 | Quote: 
  Then again, I stuck a nail in a socket twice myself.  Once out of curiosity - I'd been told not to, of course, or I wouldn't have thought of doing it at all - and the second time because the first was quite a buzz. | |
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|  08-23-2013, 04:03 PM | #70 | |
| A garbling groftpot            Posts: 996 Karma: 9234667 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: France Device: Oasis, Voyage, Kobo mini, Samsung tablet, phones, whatever. | Quote: 
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|  08-23-2013, 11:32 PM | #71 | |
| Wizard            Posts: 4,812 Karma: 26912940 Join Date: Apr 2010 Device: sony PRS-T1 and T3, Kobo Mini and Aura HD, Tablet | Quote: 
 My mother gave a prepaid credit card to a younger child and the child's parents were not overly pleased. Asked her to give gift certificate or something else next time. Maybe they thought the child was to young or might have difficulty using it in person. Don't really know though. Helen | |
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|  08-23-2013, 11:49 PM | #72 | 
| Guru            Posts: 823 Karma: 1818344 Join Date: Apr 2011 Device: iPhone 5s | 
			
			So did the mother ever sit down with her child and find out whether she was reading it for kicks or if she was actually reading it for tips? That book sounds so stupid I think I'd read it just to see what it says. I wouldn't pay for it though.
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|  08-24-2013, 07:21 AM | #73 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 3,068 Karma: 54671821 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: New England Device: PW 1, 2, 3, Voyage, Oasis 2 & 3, Fires, Aura HD, iPad | 
			
			Whenever I read one of these types of stories, it makes me sad for the kids whose parents trust them so little that they feel they have to censor what they do or see, rather than letting them watch, and then discussing it with them.  I was never censored as a child, and I have never censored either of my two children.  The closest I ever came to censoring was telling them that they could only watch certain tv shows or movies while I was in the room.   I agree with the person who said that all that is accomplished by forbidding certain things is to make them more appealing--and I've seen the evidence over and over with my friends growing up, and my children's friends. The ones whose parents try to "shelter" them from certain things and ideas rather than discuss it with them when it comes up end up rebelling the most. In my opinion all these controlling parents are doing is crippling and retarding their children, so that when the kids go off to college they end up over-compensating because they have too much freedom all of a sudden. Shari | 
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|  08-24-2013, 03:49 PM | #74 | 
| Addict            Posts: 355 Karma: 1001201 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: UK Device: Kindle 3 Keyboard, Surface Tablet, Android Smartphone, Laptop, Netbook | 
			
			Parents need to monitor what their kid is up to if they are that concerned, not expect others to do it for them. But I would be more concerned with the fact that the girls wanted to make a sex tape and become famous rather than the reading material (I read books about serial killers but don't go out on killing sprees myself).  IMHO I was very lucky to have very easy going parents as a child/teen, and was allowed to read most things (I had no interest in erotica but did come across some very violent/disturbing topics as well as the occasional graphic sex scene) and I don't think it did me any harm. P.S. When I worked in a library anyone with a teen card (13 or above) could borrow any titles including adult ones. We were not allowed to interfere, but then this policy was also explained to parents. I've also never seen a bookshop with a 'closed' adults only section unless it was a licensed sex shop. | 
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|  08-24-2013, 04:00 PM | #75 | |
| SQUIRREL!!            Posts: 1,636 Karma: 8400000 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: California Device: K-Fire, PW2, PW3 | Quote: 
  or anything on CineMax with the word 'Desire' in it?  Or what if your 12 year old came in at happy hour and asked for a dirty martini?  ..... Yes, these are extreme examples, but they illustrate the need for parents to set limits. Referring to any limits as being 'censorship' is inappropriate and rather naive.  What limits you place as a parent are your own choice, but that some limits need to be set is basic parenting. May not be politically correct in this day and age, but there it is....   | |
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