Kobo Firmware 2.8.1: pass or fail? (poll) - Page 2

speakingtohe · 08-09-2013, 05:01 PM

I would vote neutral. No improvements, and I have only seen a couple of small new problems which I don't know if they are new or only new to me.

I have 2.8.1 on the mini, but can't be bothered to install it on the Aura.

Helen

moffattm · 08-09-2013, 06:44 PM

It's a pass from me.

Booting up is faster and pretty much everything seems a bit snappier. I never really cared either way about the top margin, and I can't remember the last time I had a double page turn as they're extremely rare for me. Battery life is also fantastic, my Glo just seems to go on and on and on.

I don't use shelves or an external SD card, so any problems with those won't affect me.

My only quibble is that maybe the home screen isn't as nice looking as it could be. It looks like it was put together by a programmer rather than someone that specialises in UI design (and this is coming from a programmer that has been forced to do UI and graphic design, I know I'm not as good as a specialist!)

scoobertron · 08-10-2013, 07:53 AM

I voted fail, largely because the long paragraph bug is still not fixed. Displaying text on the page is, imho, a core function. If a book starts several chapters with a blank page, and has several more pages with less than half page of text, then this is a pretty fundamental flaw. With each release it becomes more frustrating that this isn't fixed, and new features are prioritised.

AnemicOak · 08-10-2013, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by scoobertron

I voted fail, largely because the long paragraph bug is still not fixed.

Can they fix it? It's a bug in ADE and the RMSDK as far as I know so unless Adobe fixes it I'm not sure Kobo can do anything (Sony has the same bug). At least that's my understanding.

Ripplinger · 08-10-2013, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by AnemicOak

Can they fix it? It's a bug in ADE and the RMSDK as far as I know so unless Adobe fixes it I'm not sure Kobo can do anything (Sony has the same bug). At least that's my understanding.

I've never seen this happen on my Sony 350s. I remove DRM though and sideload all my books, if that matters. Although I do the same for any books on the Kobo as well.

AnemicOak · 08-10-2013, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ripplinger

I've never seen this happen on my Sony 350s. I remove DRM though and sideload all my books, if that matters. Although I do the same for any books on the Kobo as well.

Perhaps the older version of the RMSDK didn't have the long paragraph bug? Because I've read posts here on MR with people complaining about it on Sony's.

filmo · 08-10-2013, 03:14 PM

So far, It is a no show.

speakingtohe · 08-10-2013, 04:42 PM

Can't recall it happening even once on my Sonys. read over 500 books on them. Happened a lot on the Kobos. Seemed to be every second or 3rd book where it was very very noticeable.

Helen

AnemicOak · 08-10-2013, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by speakingtohe

Can't recall it happening even once on my Sonys. read over 500 books on them. Happened a lot on the Kobos. Seemed to be every second or 3rd book where it was very very noticeable.

Helen

But are you talking about the long paragraph bug (where a page ends about 2/3rds of the way down the screen) or the other Kobo bug where you sometimes only get a few lines of text a couple pages in a row?

I think I'm mainly remembering Harry's post where he said he'd had it happen on other ADE/RMSDK based readers...
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...&postcount=500

speakingtohe · 08-10-2013, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnemicOak

But are you talking about the long paragraph bug (where a page ends about 2/3rds of the way down the screen) or the other Kobo bug where you sometimes only get a few lines of text a couple pages in a row?

I think I'm mainly remembering Harry's post where he said he'd had it happen on other ADE/RMSDK based readers...
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...&postcount=500

Both. Not saying it never happened as with HarryT's post, just that I did not notice it happening. I have had books that it seemed to happen, but I looked at a couple of these books in other viewers and they were just ugly books. And this was before I owned anything Kobo.

The Kobo thing I was referring to is just the general lack of filling up the page when the next paragraph would fit as well as starting a long paragraph on a new page when it won't fit all on one page anyway. And occasionally putting a whole blank page or a page with just one word, when there is not even a long paragraph.

Now if there were not so many comments in the Kobo forum I probably would not have paid that much attention. I would have shrugged it off. These are pretty minor bugs on the Kobo bug list. At least 20 far worse that I can think of. But do to all the comments my curiosity was aroused.

I had 6 readers if you include my mothers kindle which isn't ADE, with much the same content. On 4/6 everything was normal. Both Kobo's seemed to display the same problems which was strange as the Aura should have been different from the Mini as far as paragraph length that could be displayed on the page went.
I'm inclined to think this is because Kobo is trying to update too many devices with the same firmware, but I could be wrong.

Perhaps the hardware's not as consistent as it might be. My pages don't turn consistently but some people's do. My margins can always be adjusted, but some people's can't. Changing the justification has zero effect for me, but I assume others do not have this problem. My sympathies lie with the poor Touch owners, who had a working back button and maybe everything sorted okay at one time. It has now been upgraded away

I am fine with the Mini as I bought it mainly to use on the bus and in waiting rooms etc. Extra page turns are of no consequence to me. The Aura is nice enough hardware wise, but I bought it under the impression that I could put several thousand books on it and it would allow me to access these books via shelves in a timely manner. Not happening. Not likely to happen in the foreseeable future. So I will sell it to some poor soul when I reach civilization again

I'll give them a really good price though.

Helen

Frenchdummy · 08-11-2013, 05:21 AM

Sorry:

Quote:

Originally Posted by danskmacabre

Seems pretty stable.
I can remove what I want from the front page.
formatting and text looks ok.

Would be nice one day for it to support SD cards properly tho, but I still give it a pass.

I just discovered a 32 go SD card problem ! After transferring epub files (6000) (Calibre reject some).
At each start, the kobo glo says it has to work on the files 0%, 1%....I've wait once the 100% (4 hours) but no end process.
I think I have the last firmware

Is there another thread about this ?
Thanks for your help.

Edit: I reached the 100% of the process described above. Now out of the black screen;
and 1/ asking for the shelves makes my kobo crash . Bad, very bad.
2/ firmware 2.8.1 (9a63806202) 15 juillet 2013
3/ Micro SD HC 32 go out > same crash on Shelves ask

jackastor · 08-11-2013, 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frenchdummy

Sorry:

I just discovered a 32 go SD card problem ! After transferring epub files (6000) (Calibre reject some).
At each start, the kobo glo says it has to work on the files 0%, 1%....I've wait once the 100% (4 hours) but no end process.
I think I have the last firmware

Is there another thread about this ?
Thanks for your help.

Edit: I reached the 100% of the process described above. Now out of the black screen;
and 1/ asking for the shelves makes my kobo crash . Bad, very bad.
2/ firmware 2.8.1 (9a63806202) 15 juillet 2013
3/ Micro SD HC 32 go out > same crash on Shelves ask

I find that you have a wait a few minutes for the shelves to show up, when you have books on the sd card. I have over 4500 books. Are you saying that you never get to the shelves? It crashes before you can see them?

regards

JAck

samhy · 08-11-2013, 11:37 AM

A pass for me

diolaine · 08-11-2013, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jackastor

I find that you have a wait a few minutes for the shelves to show up, when you have books on the sd card. I have over 4500 books. Are you saying that you never get to the shelves? It crashes before you can see them?

regards

JAck

I also have this bug, with a 32 gb sd card it freezes and do not want to know to load my books (only 10 go). I tried with a 4 GB card, same problem! What is odd is to have a 32gb card in this case!

jackastor · 08-11-2013, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diolaine

I also have this bug, with a 32 gb sd card it freezes and do not want to know to load my books (only 10 go). I tried with a 4 GB card, same problem! What is odd is to have a 32gb card in this case!

Agreed. Maybe someone can shed some additional information on a fix or work around that does not involve removing books or the cards?

Regards

JAck

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08-09-2013, 05:01 PM	#16
speakingtohe Wizard Posts: 4,812 Karma: 26912940 Join Date: Apr 2010 Device: sony PRS-T1 and T3, Kobo Mini and Aura HD, Tablet	I would vote neutral. No improvements, and I have only seen a couple of small new problems which I don't know if they are new or only new to me. I have 2.8.1 on the mini, but can't be bothered to install it on the Aura. Helen

08-09-2013, 06:44 PM	#17
moffattm Addict Posts: 333 Karma: 1440670 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Device: Kobo Original, Kobo Glo	It's a pass from me. Booting up is faster and pretty much everything seems a bit snappier. I never really cared either way about the top margin, and I can't remember the last time I had a double page turn as they're extremely rare for me. Battery life is also fantastic, my Glo just seems to go on and on and on. I don't use shelves or an external SD card, so any problems with those won't affect me. My only quibble is that maybe the home screen isn't as nice looking as it could be. It looks like it was put together by a programmer rather than someone that specialises in UI design (and this is coming from a programmer that has been forced to do UI and graphic design, I know I'm not as good as a specialist!)

08-10-2013, 07:53 AM	#18
scoobertron Connoisseur Posts: 58 Karma: 349476 Join Date: Jul 2012 Device: Kobo touch	I voted fail, largely because the long paragraph bug is still not fixed. Displaying text on the page is, imho, a core function. If a book starts several chapters with a blank page, and has several more pages with less than half page of text, then this is a pretty fundamental flaw. With each release it becomes more frustrating that this isn't fixed, and new features are prioritised.

08-10-2013, 03:14 PM	#22
filmo Wizard Posts: 1,326 Karma: 1077205 Join Date: Jun 2011 Device: Kobo Touch, Sony T1, Kobo Mini	So far, It is a no show.

08-10-2013, 04:42 PM	#23
speakingtohe Wizard Posts: 4,812 Karma: 26912940 Join Date: Apr 2010 Device: sony PRS-T1 and T3, Kobo Mini and Aura HD, Tablet	Can't recall it happening even once on my Sonys. read over 500 books on them. Happened a lot on the Kobos. Seemed to be every second or 3rd book where it was very very noticeable. Helen

08-11-2013, 11:37 AM	#28
samhy Wizard Posts: 1,821 Karma: 9503859 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: France Device: (Sony (J) PRS 650), Kobo Mini, Kobo Glo HD (broken), Kobo Clara BW	A pass for me