JK Rowling Publishing under a Pseudonym - Page 15

elcreative · 08-01-2013, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by HansTWN

They are sitting on a potential gold mine -- and all they have to do is get the word out somehow? And then it happens....

So why wouldn't they actually have enough books in print to meet the demand from the results of their underhanded release of the author's real name... people spend way too much time and effort on conspiracies but if that floats your boat...

HansTWN · 08-01-2013, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by elcreative

So why wouldn't they actually have enough books in print to meet the demand from the results of their underhanded release of the author's real name...

That is a good point. Not that it matters for ebooks, though. Keep forgetting that paper still exists.

HarryT · 08-02-2013, 03:20 AM

Hans,

As far as I can see, there is not one shred of evidence to support your suggestion of a conspiracy theory, but a great deal of evidence to back up the view that this was simply a case of a solicitor who couldn't keep his mouth shut.

HansTWN · 08-02-2013, 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

Hans,

As far as I can see, there is not one shred of evidence to support your suggestion of a conspiracy theory, but a great deal of evidence to back up the view that this was simply a case of a solicitor who couldn't keep his mouth shut.

There is no real evidence either way, but like in any investigation, you look for the strongest motive first. I never said that this line of thinking shows what really happened, but the publishers were the ones with most to gain.

tompe · 08-02-2013, 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by HansTWN

There is no real evidence either way, but like in any investigation, you look for the strongest motive first. I never said that this line of thinking should what really happened, but the publishers were the ones with most to gain.

Of course there is evidence for one version and not the other.

Why do you think that you look for the strongest motive first? Is that from crime novels or from reality?

murraypaul · 08-02-2013, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by HansTWN

There is no real evidence either way, but like in any investigation, you look for the strongest motive first.

There is real evidence one way, the people concerned have admitted what has happened.
There is no evidence the other way.

HansTWN · 08-02-2013, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by murraypaul

There is real evidence one way, the people concerned have admitted what has happened.
There is no evidence the other way.

So we trust the statement from the lawyers? What is this world coming to?

Anyway, I am not arguing, just thinking out loud. The publishers were the only ones with a strong motive. If we accept that Rowling doesn't care about making more money from this.

murraypaul · 08-02-2013, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by HansTWN

So we trust the statement from the lawyers? What is this world coming to?

Anyway, I am not arguing, just thinking out loud. The publishers were the only ones with a strong motive. If we accept that Rowling doesn't care about making more money from this.

The statement was clearly against interest, which makes it more believable. It fits with who actually leaked the story. Exactly how much money do you think is going to be made by this book, that the publishers could afford to bribe a senior lawyer enough to publicly admit that he betrayed a client's confidence?
You seem determined to continue to believe what you want to though, so go ahead.

SteveEisenberg · 08-02-2013, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by HansTWN

There is no real evidence either way, but like in any investigation, you look for the strongest motive first.

According to Cormoran Strike (or was it another character in the book?), that's what amateurs do. Being an amateur myself, I can't say whether he's right

DrNefario · 08-02-2013, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by HansTWN

I am not saying my scenario is correct, but it seems unlikely that there was no plan here. Perhaps the publisher only agreed to take the book in the first place on the understanding that it was leaked at some point in time? But this leak seems too convenient.

It was very much not a timely leak - booksellers were completely unprepared for the extra demand.

The sales would have come when the pseudonym was eventually revealed whenever that happened to be. There was no great need for it to be so soon.

samhy · 08-02-2013, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by HansTWN

The publishers were the only ones with a strong motive.

Not the only one. All the damages and royalties are going to The Soldiers' Charity.

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She said she had "always intended" to give the charity "a donation out of Robert's royalties" but "had not anticipated him making the bestseller list a mere three months after publication".

Don't forget that they helped her in her research, so someone here must have known she was writing a book

[Just kidding, of course, I truly respect all the people fighting for our safety whether local or global]

laughingdragons · 08-02-2013, 12:53 PM

I couldn't even finish the book it was so slow. She is too descriptive in this book that it takes forever for the book to move along.

I should have read the 1 and 2 star reviews on amazon before getting it they have it right.

JD Gumby · 08-02-2013, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by laughingdragons

I couldn't even finish the book it was so slow. She is too descriptive in this book that it takes forever for the book to move along.

I should have read the 1 and 2 star reviews on amazon before getting it they have it right.

In other words, it's not to your tastes. Mystery novels tend to be slow and heavy on description. When they're not, frankly, they get tossed down into the Thriller category.

ApK · 08-02-2013, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveEisenberg

According to Cormoran Strike (or was it another character in the book?), that's what amateurs do. Being an amateur myself, I can't say whether he's right

A murder investigator knows that motive is not really important. Lots of innocent people might have motive, and the killer might be a psycho with no motive at all. Motive it might provide some leads, and it's nice to show a jury, but it's not needed to convict at all.

In a business or fraud matter, however, "follow the money" is nearly a sure bet, so in that sense, money motive is key.

But in this case, if you follow the money, it may be leading in the wrong direction.

ApK

AHMavrick · 08-02-2013, 03:52 PM

I am not a fan of mystery or murder novels, just not my "thing". I also am not a devotee of her name and main money making books the Potter series but I did like the movies. I absolutely don't have a problem with her using a pseudonym to publis something outside of her established genre. I do take offense to the bio she faked, claiming a military background she did not earn. We have enough fakes and phonies claiming to be some super hero veteran and defrauding folks while doing so. Her doing the same thing just adds credibility to the fraudulent practice. That is my sole objection to the issue.

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HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,556 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Hans, As far as I can see, there is not one shred of evidence to support your suggestion of a conspiracy theory, but a great deal of evidence to back up the view that this was simply a case of a solicitor who couldn't keep his mouth shut.

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laughingdragons Groupie Posts: 189 Karma: 1125536 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: CA Device: Sony PRS-350 1 Pink 1 Silver Paperwhite Kindle	I couldn't even finish the book it was so slow. She is too descriptive in this book that it takes forever for the book to move along. I should have read the 1 and 2 star reviews on amazon before getting it they have it right.

08-02-2013, 03:52 PM	#225
AHMavrick Enthusiast Posts: 25 Karma: 10000 Join Date: Oct 2010 Device: none	I am not a fan of mystery or murder novels, just not my "thing". I also am not a devotee of her name and main money making books the Potter series but I did like the movies. I absolutely don't have a problem with her using a pseudonym to publis something outside of her established genre. I do take offense to the bio she faked, claiming a military background she did not earn. We have enough fakes and phonies claiming to be some super hero veteran and defrauding folks while doing so. Her doing the same thing just adds credibility to the fraudulent practice. That is my sole objection to the issue.