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Old 07-23-2013, 02:06 AM   #511
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Thanks a lot Harry! I read a lot of nonfiction with long paragraphs, so I guess I should stick with non-ADE readers, or rather should remain faithful to Kindles.
The Kobo devices actually have to renderers. One is based on ADE and the other on ACCESS. The ACCESS one us used by the Kobo format generally know as "kepub". It is just epub with extra spans to hold ids that are used for reading position and bookmarks. There is a driver for calibre that will convert the books as they are sent to the device. Of the problems mentioned above, only the widows/orphans one exists with the ACCESS renderer. And it can be argued that it is handling this correctly. It is easy to add fix this in the CSS for the book.
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@davidfor: are there differences between normal epubs and Kepubs about this? I mean, I was snapping a few pics and opened 2 books, I noticed that I use 36 and max weight/sharpness with a sideloaded kepub while the same settings for a epub are way too big. (these 2 books are both fanfic dl from the same website - ao3 - so they start with the same settings/fonts I think) [see pics]

@Ansem_93: here I attached some pics

sorry they're rotated, if you open them in a new page by clicking on them 2 times they should be right (at least they are for me)
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Old 07-23-2013, 06:38 AM   #513
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@davidfor: are there differences between normal epubs and Kepubs about this? I mean, I was snapping a few pics and opened 2 books, I noticed that I use 36 and max weight/sharpness with a sideloaded kepub while the same settings for a epub are way too big. (these 2 books are both fanfic dl from the same website - ao3 - so they start with the same settings/fonts I think) [see pics]
Yes, for some reason the epub and kepub renderers use a different base size for the fonts. It's very annoying if you swap between them. The margins are different sizes as well.
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Yes, for some reason the epub and kepub renderers use a different base size for the fonts. It's very annoying if you swap between them. The margins are different sizes as well.
I have noticed that but just assumed it was a bug in the firmware that they have never got around to fixing. Nice to know they intentionally insert working bugs into the firmware....

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Old 07-23-2013, 09:04 AM   #515
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Yes, for some reason the epub and kepub renderers use a different base size for the fonts. It's very annoying if you swap between them. The margins are different sizes as well.
Oh thanks for confirming that (I thought it was a problem only for me). It IS a bit weird....

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I have noticed that but just assumed it was a bug in the firmware that they have never got around to fixing. Nice to know they intentionally insert working bugs into the firmware....
I have no idea if it was deliberate or just a side effect of the two different rendering engines they are using. But, I don't consider it a bug, just an nuisance.
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@davidfor: are there differences between normal epubs and Kepubs about this? I mean, I was snapping a few pics and opened 2 books, I noticed that I use 36 and max weight/sharpness with a sideloaded kepub while the same settings for a epub are way too big. (these 2 books are both fanfic dl from the same website - ao3 - so they start with the same settings/fonts I think) [see pics]

@Ansem_93: here I attached some pics

sorry they're rotated, if you open them in a new page by clicking on them 2 times they should be right (at least they are for me)
thanks a lot at you and all the other (sorry i can't quote everyone )
i think that I'll go for this kobo if my mom will steal my kindle XD
I'll use it only for reading, so i don't need the precision of the kindle for highlight the text or take note (the keyboard it's horrible).
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The Aura keyboard is more responsive than the Paperwhite keyboard, IMO. For notes, I'd rather use the Aura (easier to type on). But the sharpness makes manga VERY readable (like paper) - more so than on previous Kobo or Kindle devices at 600x800 or even 568x1024 resolutions.
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thanks the feedback for the manga are very usefull
only one other thing: there is the possibility to don't have the space between the paragraf? I don't like it, and i prefer the kindle formats for intent the page
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Spaces between paragraphs are purely a feature of the formatting of the individual book.
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thanks the feedback for the manga are very usefull
only one other thing: there is the possibility to don't have the space between the paragraf? I don't like it, and i prefer the kindle formats for intent the page
I think you can convert a book on calibre with the right settings and make it exactly like that (no space but indents). I prefer space & no indents, it's less full and so I have the space to pause when reading *purely subjective feeling *
but anyway, it's a couple of clicks away, if you want it.
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Spaces between paragraphs are purely a feature of the formatting of the individual book.
in a videoreview the author show that it's a setting of the kobo. I don't know if i can link this videoreview
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in a videoreview the author show that it's a setting of the kobo. I don't know if i can link this videoreview
It is not a Kobo setting. I have books from Kobo in both styles, some with spaces between paragraphs, and some without.
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It is not a Kobo setting. I have books from Kobo in both styles, some with spaces between paragraphs, and some without.
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