Sony's unannounced Reader PRS-T3 leaks out at the FCC

[parkher]

Originally Posted by Rizla

I have walked away from Sony for that reason.

Well, so far so good, thanks to porkupan
There was no reason to walk away from Sony yet.
But there might be.
I came to Sony only after T1 and T2 were rooted, not before. I was waiting and remember even the day when porkupan finally gave up on T2 after probably over a month of attempts. Only to announce a few hours later the same day that he had another idea
I ordered my first T2 the very next day.

Maybe Sony will surprise us with an open android on T3?

[parkher]

Originally Posted by medard

Sir, I tried that with different shirts since you suggested this. The Sony cover without light doesn't fit into any of my shirt pockets.

Ha! I did not tell you that only a couple of all of my shirts are good for Sony.
But I suggest having it with you when you buy new clothes.
You know - buy only if they fit your Sony.

[trocchietto]

[QUOTE=parkher;2571607]trocchietto

If you have 1.0.03.09110,



Dear parkher tank you
The file indicated is an exe but we are ot in this topic
Still i am not convinced in colors as People want covers
I repeat you we bookworms are exceptions but as we say in Italy Anche l occhio vuole la sua parte also the eyes need to be happy

Ciao

[parkher]

trocchietto,
Yes, those firmware files are for Windows. I don't know where to find safe versions for Mac or Linux.

I do not follow the e-ink technology too closely, but are there now rgb pixels?
If colors are still made by color filters on the regular black and white pixels (as in Triton and Triton 2) - then color e-ink has to be pale. The integrated lighting might help it in that regard, but for actual reading of books black and white letters are clearly of worse contrast and quality than without the color filters. And the colors themselves worse than on lcd tablets. It is a lose/lose proposition.
You have bad black and white and bad color.
I am against using tablets for reading, but a tablet actually might be better than color e-ink.
I think that e-ink should remain black and white. For color, new technologies are coming.
All the tablets will switch to one of them very soon in order to be usable in sunlight and to extend the time between charging. Possibly some of those technologies will be easier on the eyes for reading as well compared to lcd. So I propose look there for color, not to e-ink.
Even if they invent actual e-ink color pixels (some of those new technologies are pretty close to e-ink color pixels) - that will still reduce the black and white quality.
So I want pure black-and-white e-ink technology for reading books. Preferably on a flexible screen, not glass, if a similar contrast can be achieved.
I heard that Wexler Flex One has very good contrast?

[speakingtohe]

Originally Posted by parkher

Well, so far so good, thanks to porkupan
There was no reason to walk away from Sony yet.
But there might be.
I came to Sony only after T1 and T2 were rooted, not before. I was waiting and remember even the day when porkupan finally gave up on T2 after probably over a month of attempts. Only to announce after a few hours the same day that he had another idea
I ordered my first T2 the very next day.

Maybe Sony will surprise us with an open android on T3?

More chance to win the lottery and I would rather win the lottery.

I'll buy Sony if it is nicer than the ones I have, and I do like Sony, but rooting would have zero or negative influence. If I felt I had to root it to enjoy it, it would be bye-bye Sony

Helen

[parkher]

Originally Posted by speakingtohe

More chance to win the lottery and I would rather win the lottery.

I'll buy Sony if it is nicer than the ones I have, and I do like Sony, but rooting would have zero or negative influence. If I felt I had to root it to enjoy it, it would be bye-bye Sony

Helen

But you would not say bye-bye to Sony if it actually released an android tablet?

On a tablet you are supposed to install yourself your favorite reading software. Although Sony probably would provide its reader pre-installed.

Rooting T2 is a very simple process (similar to firmware update, really) and it converts T2 into an android tablet (and also improves the native Sony reading software).

So I really don't see much difference between converting T2 into an android tablet or buying an android tablet.
The lack of official support from Sony for a self-made tablet - that might be the difference important to some people.

[Rizla]

Originally Posted by parkher

But you would not say bye-bye to Sony if it actually released an android tablet?

On a tablet you are supposed to install yourself your favorite reading software. Although Sony probably would provide its reader pre-installed.

Rooting T2 is a very simple process (similar to firmware update, really) and it converts T2 into an android tablet (and also improves the native Sony reading software).

So I really don't see much difference between converting T2 into an android tablet or buying an android tablet.
The lack of official support from Sony for a self-made tablet - that might be the difference important to some people.

I have to tell you you are completely wrong. About this there can be no discussion.

[jersysman]

Sony has made a tablet in the past, so why go to all of that trouble?

[speakingtohe]

Originally Posted by parkher

But you would not say bye-bye to Sony if it actually released an android tablet?

On a tablet you are supposed to install yourself your favorite reading software. Although Sony probably would provide its reader pre-installed.

Rooting T2 is a very simple process (similar to firmware update, really) and it converts T2 into an android tablet (and also improves the native Sony reading software).

So I really don't see much difference between converting T2 into an android tablet or buying an android tablet.
The lack of official support from Sony for a self-made tablet - that might be the difference important to some people.

I don't want to read books on a tablet. I would think an eink tablet that worked as well as an LCD/LED table would be nice for the battery life, but not holding my breath.

And yes I know rooting T2 is a simple process. Most 12 year olds could probably do it if they can read and follow instructions. Not really a major accomplishment to brag on and on about IMO. Perhaps it is for you?.

And I have an android tablet and an HP tablet with dual boot to android. No big deal. Like yourself I have a desktop, and a few laptops, and numerous other gadgets and devices. I have gone to trying to buy only wireless accessories because I had too may power bars and USB hubs attached to and surrounding my desktop. I like gadgets and devices and spend far more on them than I should.

And why on earth would anyone expect Sony to support a self made tablet? They hardly support their ereaders although they do better than some. AFAIK no one supports a rooted device, which I assume you were referring to.

I don't expect my ereaders to do everything a tablet does and more but would be okay if they did. If they would get together and make the bed and cook me breakfast that would be even nicer.

Helen

[parkher]

Originally Posted by Rizla

I have to tell you you are completely wrong. About this there can be no discussion.

How can I be wrong if I only asked two questions and made no statement?
Wrong even to ask those questions?

- do you consider using an e-ink android tablet for reading books?
- what is the difference between a rooted T2 and an e-ink android tablet?

I know, the word "tablet" is perhaps unfortunate. But we are speaking here about an e-ink tablet.
Until now, we had two makers of android e-readers. One is now out. Sony remains, but it makes its readers as hard to root as possible.
So, e-ink tablets may well become the only choice.

For me, the main worry is that those e-ink tablets may have no buttons.
And for reading books I need buttons. At least "next page".
I have Aura without buttons, so I know that I really need them.

I hope that Onyx Boox will still have buttons on their new android readers/tablets.

[parkher]

Originally Posted by speakingtohe

I don't want to read books on a tablet. I would think an eink tablet that worked as well as an LCD/LED table would be nice for the battery life, but not holding my breath.

And yes I know rooting T2 is a simple process. Most 12 year olds could probably do it if they can read and follow instructions. Not really a major accomplishment to brag on and on about IMO. Perhaps it is for you?.

And I have an android tablet and an HP tablet with dual boot to android. No big deal. Like yourself I have a desktop, and a few laptops, and numerous other gadgets and devices. I have gone to trying to buy only wireless accessories because I had too may power bars and USB hubs attached to and surrounding my desktop. I like gadgets and devices and spend far more on them than I should.

And why on earth would anyone expect Sony to support a self made tablet? They hardly support their ereaders although they do better than some. AFAIK no one supports a rooted device, which I assume you were referring to.

I don't expect my ereaders to do everything a tablet does and more but would be okay if they did. If they would get together and make the bed and cook me breakfast that would be even nicer.

Helen

Look, I don't want an e-reader to do everything a tablet does. Quite the opposite - I hate tablets. In the sense that I don't see any use for them. They do everything but worse than specialized devices. So I have specialized devices instead. If you travel a lot, and if e-reader is not enough for you when you travel, you may think differently, though. But for me a tablet is just a gadget or a toy that I will never buy. At least an lcd tablet.

I want e-reader to do only functions related to reading:
- to have reading software, dictionary software and dictionaries, file manager or if you prefer it - library managing software.

I don't want in a reader even any of the other stuff that is already included in T2: like a browser, Ever Note (I have no clue what it is) etc.

So if I get an e-ink tablet, I will only install reading and dictionary software.

I raised the question of an e-ink tablet because there is a chance that they will begin appearing and might be pretty suitable for reading because of e-ink.
So I would not install anything else beyond what is needed for reading.
But that would be a solution if Sony T3 is not rooted and Nook is no longer made.
Or if an e-ink tablet has a clearly better screen, etc.

On the other hand, what is the difference between a rooted T2 and an e-ink android tablet?
In the sense, that I would install Cool Reader and GoldenDict onto both and I don't care about anything else.

I did not suggest that Sony should support self-made tablets.
I did suggest that one of differences (maybe a very important one for some) between rooted T2 and a tablet is absence of support for rooted T2 and presence of support for an official tablet.

You know, I have no intention of buying T3 if it is not rooted (although perhaps better to wait for its specs).
And if it is not, then e-ink android tablets may fill that gap for me.
If only they have buttons. That is my main concern. Because tablets, as general purpose devices, may not have any buttons.

As to bragging about rooting - the bragging rights belong to the people who implemented it: to porkupan and rupor, and others.
I myself rooted 4 T2s, the first one in the early development stages, so there were some horror stories but they still ended well. The other three - without any glitch.
But still, there is some irrational excitement, apprehension or fear present when rooting.
And relief afterwards.
So in that sense, an e-ink tablet which requires no rooting is perhaps an advantage just because of that.

[Rizla]

Yeah, I prefer page-turn buttons, but what can you do? Button Saviour is pretty handy on the Nook STR (the Nook buttons suck). I think the Onyx Android e-reader has page-turn buttons.

Unlike you, I use the rooted Nook more as a mobile note-taker / e-ink tablet than as an e-reader. Well, about half and half. Check out the Orion PDF reader app. Best I've found for e-ink. I think it was designed for it.

[parkher]

I never read pdf on e-reader.
I have no pdf viewers installed on T1 and T2.

If I absolutely have to read a pdf on e-reader, I always convert pdf to something else first.
If pdf does not contain OCRed text but rather scans - I do the OCRing myself too.
If pdf has two columns - I don't have a solution for that yet.

I am aware that some people do the opposite - convert other formats to pdf tailored for their reader and to their preferences. But then, no special capabilities are required from the pdf viewer.

The only exception: I use pdfs with sheet music on 9.7" PocketBook.
Because of its weight I rarely use it for anything else.
But that is not reading pdf in the usual sense.
I think I will get that rumored Sony 13.3" whatever it may cost specifically for pdf sheet-music.

[medard]

Yes, the Sony Mobuis is going to be a groundbreaking deveice for studying PDF documents. But this may take some time, I don't think we'll see the Mobius that soon.

And concerning this Evernote stuff: I agree that Sony should get rid of this. I just found out that I have a free premium membership for Evernote but I still don't understand what that is and why I need this.

Sony should think about more important things. For example I'd like to give my Sony Reader a name. Or I'd like to give a star to books that I've read. This is importaint, Evernote is not.

[parkher]

I wonder if it has next page / previous page buttons somewhere.
It has the other three from T2. And, because the touch screen is of an inductive type and requires a special stylus, it must have the page turning buttons?
Probably on the edges or on the back side somewhere?

http://technabob.com/blog/wp-content..._e_paper_1.jpg
http://technabob.com/blog/wp-content..._e_paper_2.jpg

Furthermore, it would be perfect for sheet music and could dominate the musician market, but it would be good if it had the next/previous page buttons as a double foot switch - possibly a wireless foot switch, but it should work with one device among many others in the orchestra.
Or a dedicated input, or through usb.
Sony would be stupid to miss that market.

I don't see any buttons on the sides or the back:

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget....5/dsc02344.jpg