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|  06-17-2013, 10:37 AM | #31 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 2,742 Karma: 32912427 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: North Yorkshire, UK Device: Kobo H20, Pixel 2, Samsung Chromebook Plus | 
			
			From a bomb-defusing manual with the proposed DRM: "The wires are red, green and blue. It's vital that you cut the latter wire first." Graham | 
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|  06-17-2013, 10:55 AM | #32 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 2,086 Karma: 14079267 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Almere, The Netherlands Device: Kobo Sage | |
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|  06-17-2013, 11:19 AM | #33 | 
| Philosopher            Posts: 2,034 Karma: 18736532 Join Date: Jan 2012 Device: Kindle Paperwhite 2 gen, Kindle Fire 1st Gen, Kindle Touch | 
			
			"This one lesson you must learn, first you pillage then you burn."
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|  06-17-2013, 08:08 PM | #34 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 4,896 Karma: 33602910 Join Date: Oct 2010 Device: PocketBook 903 & 360+ | 
			
			Faith is different from proof; the latter is human, the former is a Gift from God. Blaise Pascal | 
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|  06-17-2013, 08:54 PM | #35 | 
| Zealot            Posts: 147 Karma: 1015220 Join Date: May 2011 Device: kindle | 
			
			What can publishers do when they track down the "leaker"? My banks were hacked a few times last three years. (When a new-numbered credit card replacement sent to you without asking, you know somethings were wrong.) Even banks can not secure their system,  can publishers really pursuit consumers over one book?
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|  06-17-2013, 09:37 PM | #36 | |
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 7,470 Karma: 44114178 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: near Philadelphia USA Device: Kindle Kids Edition, Fire HD 10 (11th generation) | 
			
			This at least hints at one of the problems with a watermarking scheme. You'd need not only the publisher, but also the retailer, to simultaneously decide that the negative publicity from suing a customer is worth it. AFAIK Amazon won't even give the New York Times the names of their subscribers.  They're probably just as unwilling to give up these names. Quote: 
 While the book industry could try to go after customers, it wouldn't be pleasant. One beauty of DRM is that you can deter some of the privacy without having to feel bad for the customers you jail or bankrupt. I know some here think publishing executives are a cold-hearted group who would sell their mothers in return for agency pricing at Amazon. If so, you'll find this paragraph implausible. | |
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|  06-17-2013, 10:06 PM | #37 | 
| Guru            Posts: 891 Karma: 8893661 Join Date: Feb 2012 Device: Kindle | 
			
			Everyone knows that if any of them had mothers, they sold them long ago.
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|  06-18-2013, 12:37 AM | #38 | 
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 7,007 Karma: 27060353 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: USA Device: iPhone 15PM, Kindle Scribe, iPad mini 6, PocketBook InkPad Color 3 | 
			
			I suspect this is a hoax. Fraunhofer is real, SiDiM is real, but where is the thing that says what the implementation of SiDiM is? A screenshot posted on a blog? Please. In any case, a solution like that purported will never be accepted in the marketplace. And there is no need for a crappy solution like this. | 
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|  06-18-2013, 01:02 AM | #39 | 
| Unicycle Daredevil            Posts: 13,944 Karma: 185432100 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Planet of the Pudding Brains Device: Aura HD (R.I.P. After six years the USB socket died.) tolino shine 3 | 
			
			You all don't understand ze idea behind zis project. Ve at Fraunhofer are ze secret German revenge unit. First ve invented mp3 to destroy ze music, now ve vill do ze same to ze literature. And zen allen Gipfeln Ruh über ist.
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|  06-18-2013, 01:32 AM | #40 | 
| Award-Winning Participant            Posts: 7,402 Karma: 69116640 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: NJ, USA Device: Kindle | 
			
			I see nothing to suggest this scheme...if were ever intended to be applied commercially at all...was intended for literature or main stream books.  I'd guess that if it's anything more than an experiment, it's for government reports or the like.
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|  06-18-2013, 02:55 AM | #41 | 
| Are you gonna eat that?            Posts: 1,633 Karma: 23215128 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Phillipsburg, NJ Device: Kindle 3, Nook STG | 
			
			Who designed this DRM, Microsoft?
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|  06-18-2013, 05:12 AM | #42 | 
| Interested Bystander            Posts: 3,726 Karma: 19728152 Join Date: Jun 2008 Device: Note 4, Kobo One | 
			
			Send legal-sounding threatening letters demanding money or they will sue you. They won't actually sue anybody, just hope enough people are scared into paying protection money. Or at least that is what the film industry have done. | 
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|  06-18-2013, 05:54 AM | #43 | |
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 5,763 Karma: 24088559 Join Date: Dec 2010 Device: Kindle PW2 | Quote: 
 According to the metadata information, the .pdf file itself was created by the CoSee GmbH, a spinoff of the Fraunhofer Institute that specializes in digital watermarking solutions. | |
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|  06-18-2013, 05:56 AM | #44 | 
| monkey on the fringe            Posts: 45,852 Karma: 158733736 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Seattle Metro Device: Moto E6, Echo Show | |
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|  06-18-2013, 09:17 AM | #45 | |
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