Not impressed by non-Amazon feeds on Kindle...

GatorDeb · 09-16-2008, 01:33 PM

Did a Feedbooks newspaper for various feeds and also a Mobipocket one. The whole article isn't there and there's too much clicking and internet browsing to do. I'll spend the $30 a month for the Kindle's editions of The New York Times, Time, Newsweek, Reader's Digest, The Daily Kos, and Cognitive Daily. More reading than I can handle either way and nicely formatted with full articles. I give up on non-book-non-Amazon content.

P.S. Woo I'm a zealot

TheJohnNewton · 09-16-2008, 02:59 PM

I guess it depends on if you have more money or more time. I too would much rather just pay for my paper subscription than ever having to bother with that silly browser. Just too much pain for me. Now if I were still a poor college student things would be different.

One more post and I'm a zealot too!

GatorDeb · 09-16-2008, 03:05 PM

That's exactly it... something that takes a lot of work and isn't comfortable to browse but free, or something that costs but it's convenient and pretty. What I like is that I can keep the papers, magazines, and blogs saved without occupying physical space (once a day I copy the 2 daily blogs over to the memory card so they're not overwritten). It's just so convenient

TadW · 09-16-2008, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TheJohnNewton

I guess it depends on if you have more money or more time.

Good point. When I was still a student, I tried to save every buck possible. Today, time means money for me, so I rather pay a few bucks on Kindle subscriptions than trying to figure out how to get it for free.

stark23x · 09-16-2008, 03:44 PM

kindlefeeder.com puts out some really nicely formatted feeds IMHO. No images yet but really well-formatted text. Check 'em out.

bwit · 09-16-2008, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stark23x

kindlefeeder.com puts out some really nicely formatted feeds IMHO. No images yet but really well-formatted text. Check 'em out.

I still prefer the paid subscriptions from Amazon but I agree that KindleFeder is a really nice service with well formated text.

Bob

GatorDeb · 09-16-2008, 10:51 PM

Too bad it's only 20 feeds maximum... it would be great if you could pay double or extra for 2 or 3 times the feeds

Any way to get the complete The New York Times in one feed instead of 25 separate ones? I set it up for The Daily Kos and Cognitive Daily and now just need a good newspaper feed.

I like that it has wireless delivery for $3 a month. If The Daily Kos and Cognitive Daily look good, that's the $3 right there and I get 17 more daily feeds (The Daily Kos takes 2 feed spots).

First update supposed to be 9p tonight

(Hhhmm I wonder if that's Eastern or Pacific...).

Edit: I wrote him about the 20 feed limit and suggested multiple feed packets, and TWO MINUTES after my email he sent me this:

"Hi -
Multiple feed packages are next on the to do list. I think it might
even be available by the end of this week."

If the content is there and the format is there, I'm sold! a 20-feed package for NYT would be $3 a month as compared to $15 Amazon wants. I'll try it out tonight.

GatorDeb · 09-16-2008, 11:41 PM

Well I'm still not happy but I know what the problem is - I want FULL feeds. Is there a major newspaper that offers full feeds? I figured most major newspapers have the same news pretty much. Where can I find listings of RSS that offers full feeds?

Donnageddon · 09-16-2008, 11:55 PM

Sweet tip, stark23x, on kindlefeeder. I like it!

kovidgoyal · 09-17-2008, 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorDeb

Well I'm still not happy but I know what the problem is - I want FULL feeds. Is there a major newspaper that offers full feeds? I figured most major newspapers have the same news pretty much. Where can I find listings of RSS that offers full feeds?

Very few newspapers offer full feeds, so a simple feed based conversion isn't going to do what you need. If you want to read newspapers of your choice, for free, I suggest selling your kindle and buying a sony reader.

GatorDeb · 09-17-2008, 02:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

Very few newspapers offer full feeds, so a simple feed based conversion isn't going to do what you need. If you want to read newspapers of your choice, for free, I suggest selling your kindle and buying a sony reader.

Look to the left of this post, I have a Sony Reader also

(had it first).

How can I get full feeds on it?! Thanks!

kovidgoyal · 09-17-2008, 02:30 AM

Use calibre. It's as simple as a click of a button.

GatorDeb · 09-17-2008, 02:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

Use calibre. It's as simple as a click of a button.

I'll try it when I get home (at work now)... so that has full feeds, huh. Now if that has full feeds why can't the Kindle have full feeds.

Is there a program that will convert from Calibre to Kindle? Or can it spit it out in Mobi format?

BTW doesn't the newspaper have to offer the full feed for Calibre to get it? If it offers the full feed why can't a Kindle service do it also?

kovidgoyal · 09-17-2008, 02:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorDeb

I'll try it when I get home (at work now)... so that has full feeds, huh. Now if that has full feeds why can't the Kindle have full feeds.

Is there a program that will convert from Calibre to Kindle? Or can it spit it out in Mobi format?

BTW doesn't the newspaper have to offer the full feed for Calibre to get it? If it offers the full feed why can't a Kindle service do it also?

Nope only output format is LRF. The Kindle does do it, it just asks you to pay for the privilege.

GatorDeb · 09-17-2008, 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

Nope only output format is LRF. The Kindle does do it, it just asks you to pay for the privilege.

I mean, if it can output to LRF, why can't Calibre or another program come up with a way to do the same exact thing and output to PRC? If it can be done to LRF it can be done to PRC.

09-16-2008, 01:33 PM	#1
GatorDeb Evangelist Posts: 447 Karma: 5365 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sin City Device: PW2 + HDX 8.9	Not impressed by non-Amazon feeds on Kindle... Did a Feedbooks newspaper for various feeds and also a Mobipocket one. The whole article isn't there and there's too much clicking and internet browsing to do. I'll spend the $30 a month for the Kindle's editions of The New York Times, Time, Newsweek, Reader's Digest, The Daily Kos, and Cognitive Daily. More reading than I can handle either way and nicely formatted with full articles. I give up on non-book-non-Amazon content. P.S. Woo I'm a zealot

09-16-2008, 10:51 PM	#7
GatorDeb Evangelist Posts: 447 Karma: 5365 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sin City Device: PW2 + HDX 8.9	Too bad it's only 20 feeds maximum... it would be great if you could pay double or extra for 2 or 3 times the feeds Any way to get the complete The New York Times in one feed instead of 25 separate ones? I set it up for The Daily Kos and Cognitive Daily and now just need a good newspaper feed. I like that it has wireless delivery for $3 a month. If The Daily Kos and Cognitive Daily look good, that's the $3 right there and I get 17 more daily feeds (The Daily Kos takes 2 feed spots). First update supposed to be 9p tonight (Hhhmm I wonder if that's Eastern or Pacific...). Edit: I wrote him about the 20 feed limit and suggested multiple feed packets, and TWO MINUTES after my email he sent me this: "Hi - Multiple feed packages are next on the to do list. I think it might even be available by the end of this week." If the content is there and the format is there, I'm sold! a 20-feed package for NYT would be $3 a month as compared to $15 Amazon wants. I'll try it out tonight. Last edited by GatorDeb; 09-16-2008 at 11:14 PM.

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09-16-2008, 02:59 PM	#2
TheJohnNewton Addict Posts: 256 Karma: 144599 Join Date: Jan 2008 Device: Boox Nova 2	I guess it depends on if you have more money or more time. I too would much rather just pay for my paper subscription than ever having to bother with that silly browser. Just too much pain for me. Now if I were still a poor college student things would be different. One more post and I'm a zealot too!

09-16-2008, 03:05 PM	#3
GatorDeb Evangelist Posts: 447 Karma: 5365 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sin City Device: PW2 + HDX 8.9	That's exactly it... something that takes a lot of work and isn't comfortable to browse but free, or something that costs but it's convenient and pretty. What I like is that I can keep the papers, magazines, and blogs saved without occupying physical space (once a day I copy the 2 daily blogs over to the memory card so they're not overwritten). It's just so convenient

09-16-2008, 03:44 PM	#5
stark23x Junior Member Posts: 7 Karma: 74 Join Date: Sep 2008 Device: Kindle	kindlefeeder.com puts out some really nicely formatted feeds IMHO. No images yet but really well-formatted text. Check 'em out.

09-16-2008, 11:41 PM	#8
GatorDeb Evangelist Posts: 447 Karma: 5365 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sin City Device: PW2 + HDX 8.9	Well I'm still not happy but I know what the problem is - I want FULL feeds. Is there a major newspaper that offers full feeds? I figured most major newspapers have the same news pretty much. Where can I find listings of RSS that offers full feeds?

09-16-2008, 11:55 PM	#9
Donnageddon Now you lishen here... Posts: 2,494 Karma: 479498 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Seattle-ish Device: Sony PRS-650. Kobo Touch, Kindle Fire	Sweet tip, stark23x, on kindlefeeder. I like it!

09-17-2008, 02:30 AM	#12
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,156 Karma: 27110894 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	Use calibre. It's as simple as a click of a button.