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Old 09-15-2008, 11:30 AM   #91
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I saw the middle of V for Vendetta last night (my husband was watching it-- I was trying to work on my manga) and thought it was interesting. Anyone else seen it?
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I saw the middle of V for Vendetta last night (my husband was watching it-- I was trying to work on my manga) and thought it was interesting. Anyone else seen it?
Yep. It's a reasonable film, made from a pretty good comic book series as I'm certain you're aware.

Agent Smith and Amidala's acting was, as usual, missing, but even that didn't spoil it totally.

Classic "one man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist" stuff.
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Yes, a lovely tale. When you can't get people's attention to listen to reason, violence becomes fully justified. Thanks, I'll pass on that moral. But it was an entertaining movie.
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Yep. It's a reasonable film, made from a pretty good comic book series as I'm certain you're aware.
Yep. I remember when the comic book series first came out. I didn't read that one, though I did read Watchmen. Comparing the comic book version to the movie via Wikipedia was interesting. Some philosophical shifts between the two, I think.

I'm afraid I must agree about Portman's acting. I thought Hugo Weaving did ok considering the limitations of working from behind a mask, but I liked him well enough as Agent Smith.
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I did read Watchmen
Ahhh, I do like Watchmen! Talk about a bleak storyline.
Really looking forward to the movie, they seem to have the look down completely. Dialogue might be a problem though, haven't heard any actual words yet.

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It's probably just me, I can't get the memory of Elrond out of my head no matter how I try.
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Thanks, I'll pass on that moral. But it was an entertaining movie.
I'm not so sure about the moral.

War is the last refuge of the downtrodden; the problem you're talking about comes in attempting to decide when you've tried all other options and if it's time for the last refuge.
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Old 09-15-2008, 06:08 PM   #97
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It's probably just me, I can't get the memory of Elrond out of my head no matter how I try.
I have to say, he played a grumpier Elrond than I could possibly have imagined.

Not having seen the entire movie nor read the book (V again), I can't pass judgment on the moral. But it does seem to me that a movie or book can portray the acts of desperate people (even sympathetically) without necessarily justifying them.

On the other hand, one can always play the "what if?" game-- if your response wouldn't be V's (or whoever-- fill in your movie character of choice here), what would it be? What would be more appropriate, more just, more effective, etc.?

I don't know what I would do if trapped in a totalitarian society. I'd like to think that my actions would more resemble those of the Quakers in Nazi Germany than V's, but how can I know how I would react to torture or the abduction of my loved ones?
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Old 09-16-2008, 08:38 AM   #98
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Yes, a lovely tale. When you can't get people's attention to listen to reason, violence becomes fully justified. Thanks, I'll pass on that moral. But it was an entertaining movie.
Ever post something and later really wish you hadn't? The words are accurate to my thinking but I regret opening my mouth. My apologies.

Any more good movies for tonight? How about some cult movies? I've only seen Barbarella and Donnie Darko (pretty cool but a bit rude for me) that might qualify. I've completely forgotten the name of the classic cult movie with Susan Sarandon. Should I see that, do you think?
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Ahhh, I do like Watchmen! Talk about a bleak storyline.
Really looking forward to the movie, they seem to have the look down completely. Dialogue might be a problem though, haven't heard any actual words yet.
Think I heard some bad rumors that Watchmen had been canceled/delayed. But I sure hope that is not the case, and watchmenmovie.com still states release for 03.06.09 (In 170 days)
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I've completely forgotten the name of the classic cult movie with Susan Sarandon. Should I see that, do you think?
Rocky Horror?

As a classic, how about The Belles of St. Trinians (1954).

Or for a cult how about Blues Brothers (I know I've already suggested it..)? Failing that, how about Dark Star (1974)
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Never, ever, EVER see the movie High Crusade! I was looking to see if the highly amusing and wonderful book by Poul Anderson is electrified yet (it is not) and came across a Blu Ray for the movie. Same title. No resemblence other than the aliens are ble and there are people wearing armor and waving swords. Nasty, horrible, nauseating movie. Should be destroyed.
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Ever post something and later really wish you hadn't? The words are accurate to my thinking but I regret opening my mouth. My apologies.

Any more good movies for tonight? How about some cult movies? I've only seen Barbarella and Donnie Darko (pretty cool but a bit rude for me) that might qualify. I've completely forgotten the name of the classic cult movie with Susan Sarandon. Should I see that, do you think?
No need to apologize, I think.

Cult movies... Repo Man?
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The words are accurate to my thinking but I regret opening my mouth. My apologies.
What for? You made an excellent point about the moral of the film being contentious.

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Susan Sarandon cult movie = "The Hunger", maybe? Very bloody, interesting story, usually used as a lesbian date movie, I believe...

Other awesome cult films (well, that I like anyway):

Weekend at Bernie's
Ginger Snaps (and more so, Ginger Snaps Back)
Tremors (the first one)
Dark City
Silent Running
The Good Son
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