|  05-23-2013, 06:53 PM | #1 | 
| Addict            Posts: 392 Karma: 1008414 Join Date: Jun 2011 Device: Kindle | 
				
				Aura HD – depth between bezel and screen
			 
			
			Can someone tell me how "recessed" the HD screen is, in comparison to a Paperwhite? Also, does the Aura HD show the cover of the current book when in standby? Thanks | 
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|  05-23-2013, 06:59 PM | #2 | 
| Nameless Being | 
			
			The recess is about 2 mm deep, and the bezel is about 1 cm wide. The Aura displays the cover of the current book in sleep/powered-down mode by default, but you can disable the display of the cover in the settings. | 
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|  05-23-2013, 07:11 PM | #3 | 
| Addict            Posts: 392 Karma: 1008414 Join Date: Jun 2011 Device: Kindle | 
			
			Thanks.  I guess I'll need to hold one in the flesh to judge - I returned a Kindle Touch and went back to a Kindle 4 due to the huge recess between bezel and screen - it really really annoyed me! I've got a Paperwhite now and the depth of the screen from bezel is right on the limit of my tolerance! I'd like an Aura HD for ePub support, more even lighting and better screen, but if the depth of screen from bezel is bigger than the Paperwhite, it's a deal breaker for me! OCD, I know!
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|  05-23-2013, 07:24 PM | #4 | |
| Nameless Being | Quote: 
 I think that this is a limitation of the IR touch screen, since about half of the recess is due to the emitters/sensors. I suspect that this is why you had an issue with the Kindle Touch as well. | |
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|  05-23-2013, 07:32 PM | #5 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 4,466 Karma: 6900052 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: The Heart of Texas Device: Boox Note2, AuraHD, PDA, | 
			
			Some hard learned information: The bezel is composed of two pieces of plastic. The outer piece is ordinary plastic colored for styling. The inner piece is a special IR Transparent/transmissive black plastic. It is the thickness of this black inner plastic piece that forms the gap. Now the black plastic serves a special function, it guides the IR beams from the IR emitters to be transmitted across the surface of the screen and to IR detectors on the opposite side of the screen. It is the interruption of a horizontal and a vertical beam that allows the touchscreen circuits to determine where you poke your finger. So, that gap that concerns you serves a very important function. Luck; Ken | 
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|  05-23-2013, 07:38 PM | #6 | 
| 350 Hoarder            Posts: 3,587 Karma: 8281267 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Midwest USA Device: Sony PRS-350, Kobo Glo & Glo HD, PW2 | 
			
			@gers1978 - If possible, I'd suggest finding a local store that has a Kobo Glo on display.  Since they both use infrared, I'm going to assume that the edges of the screen and any gap will be the same between both devices, and you can see for yourself if it's ok for you or not before you order something you can't return.
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|  05-23-2013, 07:39 PM | #7 | 
| Nameless Being | |
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|  05-23-2013, 07:57 PM | #8 | |
| Wizard            Posts: 4,466 Karma: 6900052 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: The Heart of Texas Device: Boox Note2, AuraHD, PDA, | Quote: 
 and holes/slots that the bezel snaps into. There is one piece of tape that seems to be there to seal the inside edge of the bezel to the surface of the screen outside the viewing area. The tape separated easily the first time I opened the Aura, and is still there and a little sticky after many cleanings of the bezel. I have opened and closed that one so many times that some of the thinner slot edges are breaking away. This has not prevented the case from being securely, even tightly closed up. As to how to; I just run my thumbnail around the slot between the bezel and the case. The corner of a good hard plastic card works fine and could reach in to nudge the tape apart, as well. Luck; Ken Last edited by Ken Maltby; 05-23-2013 at 08:04 PM. | |
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|  05-23-2013, 08:28 PM | #9 | |
| Nameless Being | Quote: 
  As a follow up question: does the Aura use an internal microSD card, like some of the other Kobo devices, or is the memory soldered on to the mainboard? | |
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|  05-23-2013, 10:22 PM | #10 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 1,326 Karma: 1077205 Join Date: Jun 2011 Device: Kobo Touch, Sony T1, Kobo Mini | 
			
			Kindle Paper White uses capacitance touch screen not needing to recess screen for IR light beams. Aura IR touch screen makes more likely Aura screen will be recess exceeds your limit.
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|  05-23-2013, 11:41 PM | #11 | |
| Wizard            Posts: 4,466 Karma: 6900052 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: The Heart of Texas Device: Boox Note2, AuraHD, PDA, | Quote: 
 forum that spell out the process to install a larger card. I have mine running with an 8GB card. There may not be much point to adding more, with the Aura's large database handling problems. Luck; Ken | |
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|  05-24-2013, 05:49 AM | #12 | 
| Addict            Posts: 311 Karma: 547600 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Paris Device: Kindle Keyboard, Kindle NT, PRS-650 | 
			
			I don't know why but I don't like this gap also. I understand it's inherent to the IR technology, but I just sold my Kindle Keyboard and regret the almost no gap between the bezel and the screen. I think it makes it look more like paper and less like a device. The paperwhite doesn't use IR right ? so I guess the gap is less important, I wish Kobo had made the same choice (wacom ?).
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|  05-24-2013, 05:50 AM | #13 | 
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			I'm not sure why e-ink devices can't just use the same touch tech as phones/tablets, and have no recess between bezel and screen?
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|  05-24-2013, 06:14 AM | #14 | 
| Trying for calm & polite            Posts: 4,012 Karma: 9455193 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mostly in Canada Device: kobo original, WiFI, Touch, Glo, and Aura | 
			
			I just wrote something really stupid about front lit vs back lit devices and the advantages of eInk for reading books. Sorry. This is my attempt to erase it all.
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|  05-24-2013, 07:40 AM | #15 | |
| Nameless Being | Quote: 
 EDIT: it is also worth noting that phones and tablets do have recessed screens. The difference is that there is a glass or plastic surface over the screen. That may offer a flush surface as far as our hands are concerned, but it interferes with the display itself. In the case of phones and tablets, most people don't care about that interference. In the case of ereaders, people do care. Last edited by BWinmill; 05-24-2013 at 07:44 AM. | |
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