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Old 05-15-2013, 01:17 PM   #1
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Reader with advanced dictionary support

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What e-reader has the most advanced dictionary support
Features are (some of them may be unreal):
1) Multiple dictionary lookup
* Onyx, Kobo, B&N has this feature, but Pocketbook (PB) does not.
2) No dictionary file size constrain (enought for wikipedia)
* PB has constains, Onyx, B&N and Kobo does not,AFAIK.
3) Collations support and care to language specific characters (while sorting)
* PB supports collations, Kobo does not, but PB doesn;t sort articles in alphabet order in latin based lnaguages other that english
4) Morphology support (may be a stemmer)
*Pocketbook has stemmer, but it is very limited in size
*Onyx has this feature (stardict)
*Kobo and Bookeen has support for synonyms.
This synonym approach is not suitable for agglutinative languages like Finnish, because they have more that 200 wordforms for each word, so stemmer is only solution.
5) Support for links inside dictionary
No e-ink reader has this feature except B&N
6) Support for images inside word card
No e-ink reader has this feature
7) html tags support, even more: CSS support
Maybe this can be achieved by using Webkit
No e-ink reader has this feature, except Kobo, which has basic html tag support
8) full text search support
No e-ink reader has this feature
9) support of wikipedia
Only in B&N (arddict)
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Old 05-15-2013, 01:25 PM   #2
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I think Kindle has good dictionary support. It can support foreign language dictionaries in addition to the primary English one, if the book's encoding is set properly.

5 is supported by Kindle, at least on my K3. I found a word the other day that I wanted to look up the linked word, and it worked fine. My K1 did not allow this, but the K3 had a list of linked words that I could choose from and go to.

You #1 can be supported by Kindle, if you choose the dictionary as a book and search within it, if it is not the primary dictionary.
I don't know what your #6 means.
7 - I don't see how this is relevant in a dictionary.
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Old 05-15-2013, 01:55 PM   #3
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thank you for reply.
Indeed, kindle has even wikipedia support
Speaking about 6-7:
If you consider a word definition as a html page, I wish to see html tag, tables, images, links and even CSS formatting there.
This is impemented in desktop version of goldendict, they use webkit for html rendering.

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Old 05-16-2013, 02:06 PM   #4
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That is not how mobipocket formatted dictionaries work.
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Old 05-16-2013, 03:21 PM   #5
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I have a PocketBook device, and although I don't think it is advanced enough for your purposes, I'm curious about some of your claims with respect to those devices.

1) By multiple dictionary support, do you mean being able to search multiple dictionaries simultaneously? If so, it's true that PB doesn't do that. It does have support for multiple dictionaries that you can switch between, though.

2) I haven't heard of any size constraints for PB dictionaries, so I'm curious where you found that bit of information. Ron Steiner created an English-English dictionary for PB devices from the Wiktionary database. It comes to about 20 MB. I'm a bit confused about your mentioning Wikipedia. Are you suggesting creating an encyclopedia from the Wikipedia pages that would work via the device's dictionary app? It's not a bad idea, but an encyclopedia doesn't really have the same information as a dictionary, so doesn't fall nicely into the expected data format.

4) What do you mean that the PB morphology support is very limited in size? Do you mean for each entry? I've seen the list for German, and it is quite large overall.

The worst part about PB dictionaries is that they are in a proprietary format. They provide a Windows-based application for converting other open dictionary formats to their own, but it does mean that commercial offerings are quite limited.
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Old 05-20-2013, 02:21 PM   #6
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1) yes, simultaneously
2) described here http://www.the-ebook.org/forum/viewt...r=asc&start=20 abd here
http://www.the-ebook.org/forum/viewt...r=asc&start=40
Max file size is about 200Mb.
3) I can't find the link now, but I tried to create morphemes.txt for turkish lang, only first 10-15 lines of this file work.
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Old 05-20-2013, 03:05 PM   #7
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I'd have to agree with susan_cassidy -- from a reader's standpoint, the Kindle PaperWhite has the most advanced dictionary support I've encountered - it's the only ereader I'm aware of that is capable on "on the fly" translations of entire nonEnglish phrases/sentences, and Wikipedia look-up. You can add additional foreign language dictionaries, if the metadata is correctly configured.
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1) yes, simultaneously
2) described here http://www.the-ebook.org/forum/viewt...r=asc&start=20 abd here
http://www.the-ebook.org/forum/viewt...r=asc&start=40
Max file size is about 200Mb.
3) I can't find the link now, but I tried to create morphemes.txt for turkish lang, only first 10-15 lines of this file work.
Thanks for the clarification. I'm working on porting Burt's Polish-English dictionary to PB format, so I'm very interested in your answers. For me, 200 MB is more than enough for a dictionary, but it looks like it isn't enough for an encyclopedia, though. As far as the morphemes.txt file goes, I was expecting to be able to add more than 15 lines of rules, since Polish is more complicated than that. I wonder if it's possible that you had an error somewhere in your file that was causing it to only process the first 15 lines? The German file I saw was hundreds of lines long. I guess I'll have to see when I get to that point.
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