Oh Great and Powerful Kobo Firmware Gods....

jackastor · 05-15-2013, 10:04 PM

Was wondering if anyone had any idea on when a new and more powerful firmware might be forth coming? I know its a long shot but some of us are dying with all the random errors that are appearing lately... Its like an End of Days thingy.....

At any rate

Regards

Jack

taming · 05-15-2013, 10:20 PM

nevermind. Hi Jack.

TechniSol · 05-16-2013, 02:42 AM

Don't be disturbed if you don't receive an actual answer from the "Kobo Firmware gods", because faith doesn't work that way...

DNSB · 05-16-2013, 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by TechniSol

Don't be disturbed if you don't receive an actual answer from the "Kobo Firmware gods", because faith doesn't work that way...

Hmmm... Been reading "The Holy Book of Universal Truth and other humourous anecdotes" again?

Regards,
David

TechniSol · 05-16-2013, 03:58 AM

Nah. Previous experience with the Kobo Firmware god's workings have merely convinced me of the lower case g requirement, so far...

jackastor · 05-16-2013, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TechniSol

Nah. Previous experience with the Kobo Firmware god's workings have merely convinced me of the lower case g requirement, so far...

Yeah I have noticed that as well. Sometimes though a well good stir of the pot is desired to bring overall flavor to the mix.

Regards

Jack

Anak · 05-16-2013, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jackastor

Yeah I have noticed that as well. Sometimes though a well good stir of the pot is desired to bring overall flavor to the mix.

Regards

Jack

Seems no one is expecting an official reaction of Kobos development team. Personally, I'm suprised that the Kobo Marketing Department didn't step in already (internally) for damage-control and protecting brand reputation and demanded certain actions to be taken to improve usability, flexability, user-friendliness of the devices, fix existing bugs and take serious notice of complaints posted on the internet about introduced features and seeking for solutions to improve 'm.
The Marketing Department must be aware that there are ongoing problems regarding the development of firmware updates as the number of bugs don't seem to go down (fast enough). And the most serious bugs are still not fixed.
I understand that bugs are part of a firmware cycle but I also expect those to be fixed a.s.a.p.

roger64 · 05-16-2013, 02:18 PM

ttt...ttt... Kobo has a vision, and is totally focused on future improvements while carefully implementing its strategy.

jackastor · 05-16-2013, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Anak

Seems no one is expecting an official reaction of Kobos development team. Personally, I'm suprised that the Kobo Marketing Department didn't step in already (internally) for damage-control and protecting brand reputation and demanded certain actions to be taken to improve usability, flexability, user-friendliness of the devices, fix existing bugs and take serious notice of complaints posted on the internet about introduced features and seeking for solutions to improve 'm.
The Marketing Department must be aware that there are ongoing problems regarding the development of firmware updates as the number of bugs don't seem to go down (fast enough). And the most serious bugs are still not fixed.
I understand that bugs are part of a firmware cycle but I also expect those to be fixed a.s.a.p.

I agree and would hope that Kobo steps up to the challenge of providing a more streamlined(?)/ stable approach to the issues at hand. On a whole the reader is still one of the best choices for reading. But I often wonder if the prevalence of the most serious errors are the result of inexperienced coders or just too many chefs in the kitchen. I think the best method to fix the issue is to fix the problem before moving on to additional features. Slower approach for sure to the evolution of the kobo reader but certainly smarter.

REgards

Jack

jackastor · 05-16-2013, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TechniSol

Don't be disturbed if you don't receive an actual answer from the "Kobo Firmware gods", because faith doesn't work that way...

Absolutely true.

murg · 05-16-2013, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Anak

Seems no one is expecting an official reaction of Kobos development team. Personally, I'm suprised that the Kobo Marketing Department didn't step in already (internally) for damage-control and protecting brand reputation and demanded certain actions to be taken to improve usability, flexability, user-friendliness of the devices, fix existing bugs and take serious notice of complaints posted on the internet about introduced features and seeking for solutions to improve 'm.
The Marketing Department must be aware that there are ongoing problems regarding the development of firmware updates as the number of bugs don't seem to go down (fast enough). And the most serious bugs are still not fixed.
I understand that bugs are part of a firmware cycle but I also expect those to be fixed a.s.a.p.

The Marketing Department is the one making the decisions as to what features are added or removed from the firmware.

Taking 2.5.2 as an example, the developers didn't just decide to add the title to every page. The marketing people decided that they needed this, for some reason.

In general, the developers do what they are told. They may make tactical decisions, like where to store the cover images of books on the SD card, or when to generate/cache cover images, but something like the title display is not going to be originating with the developers.

taming · 05-16-2013, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by murg

Taking 2.5.2 as an example, the developers didn't just decide to add the title to every page. The marketing people decided that they needed this, for some reason.

I know marketing/business is behind some decisions but I have not heard anything about this particular decision that would indicate that they made it. Can you point to a source?

TechniSol · 05-17-2013, 03:19 AM

Well, here's a shocker for you, but in business there's only one group ever ultimately at fault and that's management. Period, end of discussion. If marketing, public relations, engineering, accounting, software development, building maintenance, etc., whomever screws the pooch it still comes down to management one way or another. When you're running the show you have to take responsibility. I give the Kobo Koders their fair share of grief, but frankly whether merely incompetent or hands tied from above, you've got to lay the penultimate responsibility with management. If the coders couldn't do any better management should have weeded them out by now, if their hands are tied, management should've found a way to leverage what they needed or left them alone. But at the same time, you'd think almost any team with any pride would have fixed certain long standing issues, which makes me wonder if the things that have stayed broken are beyond their control in the hand's of third parties. Frankly, it's getting to the point that I seriously wonder. It seems like the last few firmware releases have been immediately followed by clean up versions within days of a release. That's just sloppy, and does not say much for the process employed.

murg · 05-17-2013, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by taming

I know marketing/business is behind some decisions but I have not heard anything about this particular decision that would indicate that they made it. Can you point to a source?

Anak used Marketing Department, so I used Marketing Department.

Replace Marketing Department with Management.

nogle · 05-18-2013, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by TechniSol

Well, here's a shocker for you, but in business there's only one group ever ultimately at fault and that's management. Period, end of discussion.

<snip>

And management have one overall responsibility - to make money.

05-15-2013, 10:04 PM	#1
jackastor Wizard Posts: 1,847 Karma: 3212428 Join Date: Jun 2011 Device: iphone stanza, kobo touch,ASUS TF300,KOBO GLO, Kobo Aura HD, Kobo Mini	Oh Great and Powerful Kobo Firmware Gods.... Was wondering if anyone had any idea on when a new and more powerful firmware might be forth coming? I know its a long shot but some of us are dying with all the random errors that are appearing lately... Its like an End of Days thingy..... At any rate Regards Jack

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taming Trying for calm & polite Posts: 4,012 Karma: 9455193 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mostly in Canada Device: kobo original, WiFI, Touch, Glo, and Aura	nevermind. Hi Jack.

05-16-2013, 02:42 AM	#3
TechniSol GranPohbah-Fezzes r cool! Posts: 1,056 Karma: 3151024 Join Date: Jul 2010 Device: Nook STRs, Kobo Touch, Kobo Glo	Don't be disturbed if you don't receive an actual answer from the "Kobo Firmware gods", because faith doesn't work that way...

05-16-2013, 03:58 AM	#5
TechniSol GranPohbah-Fezzes r cool! Posts: 1,056 Karma: 3151024 Join Date: Jul 2010 Device: Nook STRs, Kobo Touch, Kobo Glo	Nah. Previous experience with the Kobo Firmware god's workings have merely convinced me of the lower case g requirement, so far...

05-17-2013, 03:19 AM	#13
TechniSol GranPohbah-Fezzes r cool! Posts: 1,056 Karma: 3151024 Join Date: Jul 2010 Device: Nook STRs, Kobo Touch, Kobo Glo	Well, here's a shocker for you, but in business there's only one group ever ultimately at fault and that's management. Period, end of discussion. If marketing, public relations, engineering, accounting, software development, building maintenance, etc., whomever screws the pooch it still comes down to management one way or another. When you're running the show you have to take responsibility. I give the Kobo Koders their fair share of grief, but frankly whether merely incompetent or hands tied from above, you've got to lay the penultimate responsibility with management. If the coders couldn't do any better management should have weeded them out by now, if their hands are tied, management should've found a way to leverage what they needed or left them alone. But at the same time, you'd think almost any team with any pride would have fixed certain long standing issues, which makes me wonder if the things that have stayed broken are beyond their control in the hand's of third parties. Frankly, it's getting to the point that I seriously wonder. It seems like the last few firmware releases have been immediately followed by clean up versions within days of a release. That's just sloppy, and does not say much for the process employed.