Kobo Touch and Arabic? - Page 3

baggins · 12-31-2012, 02:47 PM

Good news.
I just followed davidfor's suggestion, and it works!

I took an epub file which was displayed LTR instead of RTL and renamed it to filename.kepub.epub and loaded it back to the device.
Everything was displayed perfectly, text appearing from right to left in perfect order.

Haelu · 05-12-2013, 03:35 AM

I have found that arabic without the vowels (fatha, kasra, damma) seems to work fine, when the file is changed to kepub.epub, but my attempt to use them ended up with the vowel markers offset to the next character.
Unfortunately this is what I need, as I want to read Qur'an

Haelu · 05-12-2013, 07:24 AM

Ok it seems it is an issue with the particular arabic font used. I was using one called Traditional Arabic, which it seems wont display the vowels properly. When I changed to a different font (Lateef or Scheherazade) the vowel markers display correctly, but the symbol for la - لا is displaying over the top of the previous character.
Has anyone got a decent arabic font which will display full arabic text correctly in epub?

paola · 05-12-2013, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haelu

Ok it seems it is an issue with the particular arabic font used. I was using one called Traditional Arabic, which it seems wont display the vowels properly. When I changed to a different font (Lateef or Scheherazade) the vowel markers display correctly, but the symbol for la - لا is displaying over the top of the previous character.
Has anyone got a decent arabic font which will display full arabic text correctly in epub?

this is great news, as e.g. on the Pocketbook there was no way to display accents. I don't have an answer to your question, but hope somebody does!

HarryT · 05-12-2013, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haelu

Ok it seems it is an issue with the particular arabic font used. I was using one called Traditional Arabic, which it seems wont display the vowels properly. When I changed to a different font (Lateef or Scheherazade) the vowel markers display correctly, but the symbol for la - لا is displaying over the top of the previous character.
Has anyone got a decent arabic font which will display full arabic text correctly in epub?

Is it a problem with the font, or with the kepub rendering engine? Have you tried using the same font with a different rendering engine?

Haelu · 05-12-2013, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

Is it a problem with the font, or with the kepub rendering engine? Have you tried using the same font with a different rendering engine?

well in libreoffice it looks fine in any arabic font I use. I will check other things.

Haelu · 05-12-2013, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haelu

well in libreoffice it looks fine in any arabic font I use. I will check other things.

I assume you mean try using another epub reading program on my pc, as I have no idea how to get another program on the actual Kobo

DNSB · 05-12-2013, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haelu

I assume you mean try using another epub reading program on my pc, as I have no idea how to get another program on the actual Kobo

I was going to suggest that you check Azardi's site. They do have a desktop reader app which seems to be the most EPUB3 compliant one I've seen. It comes in Windows, Mac and Linux flavours. This should let you check your ebooks on the PC before transferring them to the Kobo. At least, it will give you a chance to see if the problem is with the ACCESS NetFront renderer on the Kobo or if it is an issue with the ebook itself.

Regards,
David

Haelu · 05-12-2013, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DNSB

I was going to suggest that you check Azardi's site. They do have a desktop reader app which seems to be the most EPUB3 compliant one I've seen. It comes in Windows, Mac and Linux flavours. This should let you check your ebooks on the PC before transferring them to the Kobo. At least, it will give you a chance to see if the problem is with the ACCESS NetFront renderer on the Kobo or if it is an issue with the ebook itself.

Regards,
David

Thanks David. I'll check that out when I get home

Haelu · 05-12-2013, 02:34 PM

Hi,

After running the file through Azardi, it seems that whatever font I choose in there make the text look perfect. (also choosing non-arabic fonts - I guess it automatically selects one that makes sense?) So i guess the fonts are fine, but somehow the differing fonts within the Kobo EPUB3 reader are somehow becoming skewed...

DNSB · 05-12-2013, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haelu

Hi,

After running the file through Azardi, it seems that whatever font I choose in there make the text look perfect. (also choosing non-arabic fonts - I guess it automatically selects one that makes sense?) So i guess the fonts are fine, but somehow the differing fonts within the Kobo EPUB3 reader are somehow becoming skewed...

The Kobo ereaders are, well, almost ridiculously sensitive to fonts. I've found some fonts where an older version worked but a newer version with 'improved' hinting looks like garbage on the screen. Part of this is issues with QT and font introspection, part of this seems to be issues with the Adobe Reader Mobile (epub2) and ACCESS NetFront (epub3) rendering engines. Of course, the two rendering engines can generate very different looking results from the same ebook just to make it even more fun.

Good luck!

David

Haelu · 05-13-2013, 05:57 AM

ok, I loaded my Kobo with about 20 arabic fonts, and now it works!

Moving down the list of fonts, the one that is working is called A_Nefel_Adeti. (cooltext.com for download) I haven't checked them all, I assume others will work too.

Haelu · 05-13-2013, 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haelu

ok, I loaded my Kobo with about 20 arabic fonts, and now it works!

Moving down the list of fonts, the one that is working is called A_Nefel_Adeti. (cooltext.com for download) I haven't checked them all, I assume others will work too.

ok after checking further there still seems to be one or two small issues, but mostly it is good

paola · 05-13-2013, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haelu

ok, I loaded my Kobo with about 20 arabic fonts, and now it works!

Moving down the list of fonts, the one that is working is called A_Nefel_Adeti. (cooltext.com for download) I haven't checked them all, I assume others will work too.

glad it works, and thanks for the info!

Haelu · 05-16-2013, 03:56 PM

here's a pic of what I managed to get.
I have had to edit a few things in Sigil, such as line spacing, so that the characters are clear

05-12-2013, 03:35 AM	#32
Haelu Member Posts: 18 Karma: 9114 Join Date: May 2013 Device: Kobo Touch	Not quite working I have found that arabic without the vowels (fatha, kasra, damma) seems to work fine, when the file is changed to kepub.epub, but my attempt to use them ended up with the vowel markers offset to the next character. Unfortunately this is what I need, as I want to read Qur'an

05-16-2013, 03:56 PM	#45
Haelu Member Posts: 18 Karma: 9114 Join Date: May 2013 Device: Kobo Touch	here's a pic of what I managed to get. I have had to edit a few things in Sigil, such as line spacing, so that the characters are clear Attached Thumbnails

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12-31-2012, 02:47 PM	#31
baggins Member Posts: 22 Karma: 5174 Join Date: Aug 2011 Device: Kobo Touch, Kobo Glo	Good news. I just followed davidfor's suggestion, and it works! I took an epub file which was displayed LTR instead of RTL and renamed it to filename.kepub.epub and loaded it back to the device. Everything was displayed perfectly, text appearing from right to left in perfect order.

05-12-2013, 07:24 AM	#33
Haelu Member Posts: 18 Karma: 9114 Join Date: May 2013 Device: Kobo Touch	Ok it seems it is an issue with the particular arabic font used. I was using one called Traditional Arabic, which it seems wont display the vowels properly. When I changed to a different font (Lateef or Scheherazade) the vowel markers display correctly, but the symbol for la - لا is displaying over the top of the previous character. Has anyone got a decent arabic font which will display full arabic text correctly in epub?

05-12-2013, 02:34 PM	#40
Haelu Member Posts: 18 Karma: 9114 Join Date: May 2013 Device: Kobo Touch	Hi, After running the file through Azardi, it seems that whatever font I choose in there make the text look perfect. (also choosing non-arabic fonts - I guess it automatically selects one that makes sense?) So i guess the fonts are fine, but somehow the differing fonts within the Kobo EPUB3 reader are somehow becoming skewed...

05-13-2013, 05:57 AM	#42
Haelu Member Posts: 18 Karma: 9114 Join Date: May 2013 Device: Kobo Touch	ok, I loaded my Kobo with about 20 arabic fonts, and now it works! Moving down the list of fonts, the one that is working is called A_Nefel_Adeti. (cooltext.com for download) I haven't checked them all, I assume others will work too.