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Old 05-11-2013, 11:24 AM   #196
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It may be hilarious to you because you probably missed the point. It's not two lines and certainly not one it's at least 4 lines lost with top and bottom added. That's roughly the difference between a 6" and a 7" reader and so on but I've already elaborated on this so I'll call it a day.
But you never had the bottom so adding lines that could be displayed there to the lines that are lost to the top is a fallacy.

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Old 05-11-2013, 11:24 AM   #197
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Hi

It may seem silly to some superior beings but I really hate being forced to look at a title bar on the top of my six inches screen (and at a distracting chapter bar at the bottom).

Please Kobo people, let KEPUB be what you wish, I do not care about your fancy "reading life", but, pleeeeaaaase, keep EPUB display out of your dubious experimentations.

Some speak about EPUB 3 features going to be released. But, there are still some obvious and huge reading bugs that need to be corrected in your EPUB 2 implementation, bugs which impact on a vast majority of today's ebooks.

It seems you never heard about this insane pagebreak before long paragraphs ? It would be about time to squash this one out and THIS would greatly improve the reading experience of your customers.

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Old 05-11-2013, 11:27 AM   #198
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It seems you never heard about this insane pagebreak before long paragraphs ? It would be about time to squash this one out and THIS would greatly improve the reading experience of your customers.
It's not just before long paragraphs, it's in the middle of a long paragraph and for a couple of authors who seem to love very long paragraphs, a couple of breaks in a paragraph. Modifying Adobe's Reader Mobile to remove this and a couple of its other display bugs would, as you said, improve the reading experience.

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Old 05-11-2013, 11:33 AM   #199
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But you never had the bottom so adding lines that could be displayed there to the lines that are lost to the top is a fallacy.

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But then Kobo should really stop boasting about their 6.8" Display, because it may be thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat big (that sounds so much like bad porn) but in the end only 6" are usable.
Now that I write this, I realize that the product manager of the Aura must be a man . And was a real estate agent prior to this job.
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Old 05-11-2013, 11:47 AM   #200
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Modifying Adobe's Reader Mobile to remove this and a couple of its other display bugs would, as you said, improve the reading experience.
Well, David, I can't speak about technicalities, but after some years of using (and producing) EPUBs, I bumped on this shameful bug for the first time with my brand new Kobo Glo. Never seen before... Sony had some bugs but certainly not this one.
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Old 05-11-2013, 11:55 AM   #201
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Ok my Glo finally got here! It updated to 2.5.1. So maybe I should try a few epubs without the title.
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Old 05-11-2013, 11:58 AM   #202
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I don't understand your attack...
It's not an attack, I simply pointed out how you are guilty of the very same thing you were complaining about, one person making a decision for everyone. You don't get to decide what is everyone's reason for choosing ebooks. You speak for no one but yourself.

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...Why do you care so much that there be no option to have a full screen text or not ?...
There you go again, speaking for others, and getting it totally wrong. I have never once said if this should or should not be an option.

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...wish others that what they want is also implemented eventually and that will be a good start.
No, too many cooks spoil the stew. As has been demonstrated the last few weeks, some people are incapable of successfully navigating the process of online shopping without a complete breakdown. I would have to object to such easily upset people making any decision on my behalf.

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...It may be hilarious to you because you probably missed the point...
I don't miss much. For instance, I noticed how you like to suggest you don't understand a simply thing like irony.
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...Oh and your last line in my quote implying that this is not an issue with Kobo but that we are crazy is insulting and I resent it.
It isn't a Kobo issue, but a personal one, people's personal likes and dislikes. I don't have an issue with people objecting to it, I just find some of the reactions over the top and a bit dramatic.

You used the word crazy, not me. You included yourself, not me. I suggest you take it up with your subconscious. Not. Me.

And to quote Sue Sylvester, "Your resentment is delicious."
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Old 05-11-2013, 12:05 PM   #203
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We've been asking Kobo to make at least some of the GUI elements as options rather than forcing them on us. I've come to the point where I'm pretty sure Kobo really doesn't give a sh.. about their customers or at least whoever it is that makes these decisions doesn't. I sideload my epubs mainly because I do NOT want to see the title of the book at the top of every page. I do NOT have alzheimer's where I cannot remember what book I am reading from one page to the next no matter how many books I have on the go. I DO find having the title at the top annoying. I am NOT retarded in that I cannot figure out that if I press the centre of the screen and wait for the time to disappear that it will be replaced by the book title and hence I will be reminded of what book I am reading just in case I have bashed by head into something and cannot remember what I was reading.

People keep making the comparison to paperbooks. But they have the title on every page or every other page... Yes they do but why? Because a paper book can fall apart, the cover can be ripped off, pages can fall out. If all the title was there for was to remind people of what they were reading, then all they have to do is look at the cover. Sure balancing out the page by having the title at the top and page number at the bottom may have something to do with it as well.

Anyway that's my rant on this. I will not be updating and perhaps when my glo dies sometime down the road some other company will get my money instead. Or hopefully someone will trying jailbreak the Kobo, or better yet maybe Kobo will actually listen to us and make these displays OPTIONAL! Ohohohoh.... but that would introduce more bugs. LMAO, been there experienced that.

A few things I came across, found at http://typophile.com:
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Keoxa may have it. In the 1600s, books were sold unbound. You had the bookseller do binding according to how much wealth you had, and the amount you wanted to spend. Samuel Pepys mentions this many times in his diary, as he was amassing his eventually large library.

I suspect the very stingy book buyer might have several smaller books bound together to save costs. In such a case a tradition of putting the title on the running heads may have developed.

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Old 05-11-2013, 12:06 PM   #204
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I will try to say this clearly and reasonably, without provoking a flamewar, so that Kobo will see it and understand and MAYBE give us the ability to have a full-screen mode for reading: I bought an Aura because it was advertised as having a larger screen, presumably for reading. I do not want a larger device with a smaller usable screen.
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Old 05-11-2013, 12:11 PM   #205
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I'm not sure if I agree that it is core functionality. Dropping support for cbr/cbz or dropping the ARM renderer for epubs so ADEPT DRMed epubs are no longer usable would be what I would consider core functionality. Losing 2 of the 5 lines I gained going to the Aura? An annoyance but not core functionality.

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The main reason to get the Aura is because of the higher resolution and the larger screen. Taking away yet more screen space for reading is taking away one of the main advantages of the Aura.
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Old 05-11-2013, 01:59 PM   #206
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Ok just looking at your avatar, I should have known. there's always one or two like you in any forum, it's inevitable I guess

Anyways whether you like it or not, we talk about the Kobo issues in this thread and if that's a thorn up your ... back It's not my problem, care or concern.

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And to quote Sue Sylvester, "Your resentment is delicious."
Oh and all I asked was to have a CHOICE so that this option of full screen be given to us, meaning TOO that you don't have to switch to full screen, that's the definition of "CHOICE" but you simply don't get that no matter how slowly and plainly it is explained to you. And you say I try to speak for others ? I rest my case

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There you go again, speaking for others, and getting it totally wrong. I have never once said if this should or should not be an option.

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Old 05-11-2013, 02:02 PM   #207
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And if the number of words on the screen is so critical, why aren't these people all using a Kindle DX?
I understand that some people like (or at least don't mind) the space used at the top and bottom of the screen for the title and page number. Someone mentioned that this takes away approximately 20% of the available screen for reading. I am wondering what the cutoff point is for people who think losing 20% of the screen is ok. What if 50% of the screen was unavailable for actual reading? Would that be ok? For me, it's not really the number of words on the screen that matters, but the ability to use the screen I have for its intended purpose of reading. Also, I read quickly, so if I have to turn more pages more often, I tend to keep my finger hovering over the screen, rather than putting my hand down. I realize this probably sounds stupid, but I feel like I'm playing some kind of videogame (tap-tap-tap) rather than reading a book.
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20% is huge. If you only had 80% of the Aura's 6.8" screen then it makes it 5.44".
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Well not really because that bottom space is part of the advertised 6.8" screen. Not making it available for reading while advertising it as part of the screen size sounds more like a fallacy to me.

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I found how to remove the title line, it is very easy.

I use a white paint pen for correcting the typos.

I am a genius, what another bug want you that I correct?

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