Glo Kobo Software Update 2.5.2

Can people lay off the margins for a bit? We know that you don't like them, and it's drowning out the comments on other bugs and features in 2.5.2.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by BWinmill

Can people lay off the margins for a bit? We know that you don't like them, and it's drowning out the comments on other bugs and features in 2.5.2.

It's the most annoying issue with 2.5.2 to some and for me, it's a deal breaker to buying an Aura HD.

[Skydog]

Originally Posted by ShellShock

I would not have bought an Aura if the only firmware for it had a permanent title bar. As things are, I am faced with never being able to upgrade the firmware unless Kobo do something about this new "feature".

Their timing certainly stinks.

[Quexos]

The issue has not been fixed yet so if anything we have not complained enough

Originally Posted by BWinmill

Can people lay off the margins for a bit? We know that you don't like them, and it's drowning out the comments on other bugs and features in 2.5.2.

[graycyn]

Originally Posted by Uschiekid

Now this makes sense...I mean even just using the term "full screen mode"....no one at Kobo can claim that concept is too complicated for the average user to give them this option! Almost any screen based gadget has this option SOMEWHERE....even our Kobos do, with the covers in sleep mode!!

PERFECT SOLUTION!

Unfortunately, the full screen covers in sleep mode are considerably marred by the tile that tells you the device is *Sleeping* and how much you've read. Information I DON'T need!

That was a great disappointment for me with the Aura, I wanted to see my covers full screen in lovely high resolution. Instead, I have to uncheck that option to avoid the *Sleeping* tile box.

[Jaden]

Originally Posted by taming

I don't understand why anyone expects a mass produced consumer product to be entirely in line with any one individual's preferences.

I never said something about wanting the Aura to be "entirely in line with my preferences".

I just don't see the benefit of taking away options from users when everyone keeps asking for more options, not less.

I also don't understand why not getting everything perfectly aligned with one's individual preferences is evidence of stupidity or incompetence on the part of the company that designed it.

It's stupid because it unnessecarily takes away an option - which is, like I said, something many users ask for: options. Not to listen to customers is not exactly a bright idea in my book.

And in a product that is aimed and marketed towards the "advanced" user and that comes with a (somewhat) customizable home screen less options is not a good idea.

That's my opinion. You are entitled to your own, of course.

If I were buying a million dollar home, I'd feel entitled to be pretty picky. The particulars of a home screen on an ereader, well, I can live with some variance from what might be my own ideal.

But it's a problem for you that I want to keep the possibility to dismiss any tile I don't want? Shouldn't you care even less about my preferences than about the homescreen of your reader?

Of course I will be able to live with it. It just doesn't make sense to me to take that possibility away.

Fortunately, if I don't like a particular product, for any reason at all, I am free to purchase one from another company that I like more.

Good for you that you've never disliked any changes in the firmware of a product you already had...

I don't dislike Kobo or I wouldn't have bought the Aura after having been very happy with my Touch. And of course I don't dislike my Aura just because I can't dismiss that one tile (for now... who knows what will be going on in the future... more tiles you can't dismiss... or maybe you'll be able to dismiss sync again in a future update...).

I will surely not sell or return my Aura just because of one tile on the homescreen I don't want or need.

But how could I have known that the sync tile would be irremovable in a future firmware when buying the Aura?

Again: it's stupid IMHO, but nothing I can not live with. I am living with the loss of the "shortlist hearts" and shortlist on the home screen of my Touch and many things more that have been taken away or added in places I never wanted them to be (like the wishlist on the homescreen).

Funny thing is that I've always said "oh, I can deal with that", "ah, no problem", "no reason not to buy a Kobo" (if someone asked me) - and now there's one thing I complain about and am told off because of that.

[graycyn]

Originally Posted by Liesse

I think you might be right.

Kobo

Also staying on older firmware here. No nice new features to upgrade for and I don't want something taking up more space on the screen.

You know, I might could live with the title thing, *IF* the update gave me something I truly *wanted*, like pinch/zoom for images in epub. Or the ability to make font sizes larger on the menus and keyboard. But as it doesn't give me anything useful, and takes away screen real estate that *is* useful to me, I can't be in favor of it. Please, Kobo, make this kind of thing optional! People buy a larger screen reader to GAIN extra screen real estate. Forcing them to lose it again, especially AFTER they've bought it and with no choice to refuse an update is not nice to your customers!

[Jaden]

Originally Posted by graycyn

Unfortunately, the full screen covers in sleep mode are considerably marred by the tile that tells you the device is *Sleeping* and how much you've read. Information I DON'T need!

That was a great disappointment for me with the Aura, I wanted to see my covers full screen in lovely high resolution. Instead, I have to uncheck that option to avoid the *Sleeping* tile box.

I'm almost scared to comment...

Users have been complaining for months about the bar on the Touch and now Kobo added that even larger box to the Aura (and in a worse place IMHO).

But I like the translucency of the "sleeping" box.

Still I have unchecked "full screen" since I don't really like where that box is placed. And the white or black border around the cover is kind of nice since I can see wether the device is sleeping or powered off at a glance - easier than with just a differently colored box.

[murg]

Originally Posted by taming

Fortunately, if I don't like a particular product, for any reason at all, I am free to purchase one from another company that I like more.

Except that Kobo forces the firmware update in us, if we connect through the Desktop. No choice about it, it will update the firmware.

[david_e]

Originally Posted by murg

Except that Kobo forces the firmware update in us, if we connect through the Desktop. No choice about it, it will update the firmware.

But you chose to buy a Kobo, no one forced you.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by david_e

But you chose to buy a Kobo, no one forced you.

But Kobo forced this titlebar on users. Users did not choose it. Most in this thread bought before the titlebar and now it's forced upon them and most don't want it.

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by murg

Except that Kobo forces the firmware update in us, if we connect through the Desktop. No choice about it, it will update the firmware.

You can always delete the update files before you disconnect. Or modify the configuration file to say you are on a later version so the update never happens.

Regards,
David

[taming]

My only objection to what is happening in this thread is to the angry, bullying and petulant tone of some of the posts. Kobo has, numerous times, made changes based on feedback on MR.

I think it is altogether possible for people to clearly state what they don't like and why without being insulting.

Stick a fork in me ; I'm done.

[Ripplinger]

I think the strong objections (I don't think I'd go so far as to say bullying though) are probably because there has already been a lot of feedback prior to this update that most everyone doesn't like the width of the bottom bar, it takes up too much space reducing the reading area; and most everyone also does not want to see a title on top of every page for the same reason.

Kobo clearly ignored the input and went ahead and took away even more reading space by forcing the title to show on every page.

And I can't blame them, I also hate losing more reading space and having no way to turn off the space-wasters.

[AnemicOak]

Are widows and orphans still an issue with this update? I'm assuming yes.