Do you like skeuomorphism on your ebook software? - Page 3

Purple Lady · 05-06-2013, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by fjtorres

I set my all my devices (eink and LCD) for taps. Quick and simple.
My hate for paging by swipes (wasted motion!) is only exceeded by my hatred for the animations themselves. (See above.)

I agree. Especially with the wasted motion. I see comercials showing an exaggerated page swipe going across the entire page and think - are you kidding me? I have to use that much energy to change the page?!

DuskyRose · 05-06-2013, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Purple Lady

I see comercials showing an exaggerated page swipe going across the entire page and think - are you kidding me? I have to use that much energy to change the page?!

I agree as well. Wasted time and energy.

While I like a little bit of notice that the page has changed, a flicker will do it. I'm reading, and don't want to be distracted. Not even by a page turn.

I'm also not at all fond of wood grain in an app. Looks tacky. I like computers and to me, they should look streamlines and sleek. No wood shelves for me on any of my machines.

wodin · 05-06-2013, 07:19 PM

Didn't I hear a few weeks ago that Apple had the patent?

jersysman · 05-06-2013, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 4691mls

did you know that the T1 has a settings option for swipe direction for page turns?

http://esupport.sony.com/docs/reader.../01/02/02.html

Yes, I knew you could switch the swipe direction, but it is the buttons that I would like to change direction.

jersysman · 05-06-2013, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Purple Lady

I agree. Especially with the wasted motion. I see comercials showing an exaggerated page swipe going across the entire page and think - are you kidding me? I have to use that much energy to change the page?!

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Originally Posted by DuskyRose

I agree as well. Wasted time and energy.

While I like a little bit of notice that the page has changed, a flicker will do it. I'm reading, and don't want to be distracted. Not even by a page turn.

I'm also not at all fond of wood grain in an app. Looks tacky. I like computers and to me, they should look streamlines and sleek. No wood shelves for me on any of my machines.

The page turn swipe doesn't have to be exaggerated. In fact, just a slight motion. On my T1 you don't even have to touch the screen.

AnemicOak · 05-06-2013, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by wodin

Didn't I hear a few weeks ago that Apple had the patent?

Apple...
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/11/app...sed-in-ibooks/

...and Samsung's trying too...
http://www.the-digital-reader.com/20.../#.UYhDgrWG2SY

theducks · 05-06-2013, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jersysman

Yes, I knew you could switch the swipe direction, but it is the buttons that I would like to change direction.

The wrong button is on the bottom for single-Left handed use on my PEz (the Right has a jog-wheel on the edge)

Felicity Grope · 05-07-2013, 06:33 AM

New to this forum and I guess I have to start somewhere so why not here? For what it's worth, I have a Sony ereader and an iPad and I can't stop reading on the iPad! I know it's wrong but I'm a sucker for that fake page turn! I find myself treating it like a real book where I begin to turn the page before I've finished reading.

fjtorres · 05-07-2013, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by AnemicOak

Apple...
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/11/app...sed-in-ibooks/

...and Samsung's trying too...
http://www.the-digital-reader.com/20.../#.UYhDgrWG2SY

Microsoft has their version, from the development of the Courier, submited in Jan 2009:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/07...e_turn_patent/

markom · 05-07-2013, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Felicity Grope

New to this forum and I guess I have to start somewhere so why not here? For what it's worth, I have a Sony ereader and an iPad and I can't stop reading on the iPad! I know it's wrong but I'm a sucker for that fake page turn! I find myself treating it like a real book where I begin to turn the page before I've finished reading.

No problem, most of a page-curl transitions for pdf's/comics/epubs allow us to freeze transition at every point, just like with real paper.

So, as long as you hold your finger on the screen, part of previous page will be visible, and if it is not completely visible then just swipe back to unfold that curled part like with real paper.

I also read a lot on iPad.

Indoors it is about 90 % time iPad (with anti-glare protector and brightness under 33 % in the dark), 10 % time e-ink.

Outdoors it is 75 % time e-ink, 25 % iPad (with anti-glare protector, homemade sunshade if needed, and brightness under 70 % in the sun).

LovesMacs · 05-07-2013, 10:53 AM

I like the illusion of a turning page. I kept my Kindle app set to this for a few months, and then I got a little tired of the effect and switched back.

kacir · 05-07-2013, 11:28 AM

I dislike skeuomorphism as done on the current generation of e-ink readers and tablet applications.
I do not like having to swipe pages, I detest fake curling pageturns, I strongly dislike seeing fake book-edge. Do not get me started on tacky wooden shelves on display. Grrrrrrr!!! Phew!!!
I do like effects - like spinning desktop cube when switching Linux desktops, because it makes easier for me to remember spatially what window is on what screen. I love wobbly windows and tastefully done window minimizing / maximizing animations, I like when icons on a well configured Android device behave as if the swiping motion had some mass and momentum.
Effects on a reading device or application irritate me.

I do not understand why Kindle offers only following three page margin choices:
- very wide
- extremely wide
- ridiculously wide.
This is an e-ink display, NOT a physical page! I want to use all the page to display text. There is bezel on the device that works like [paper] page margin. 5 pixel margin is just great on my other reader.

If you really want to do skeuomorphism, why don't you try to use real typography, instead of that awful fully justified text with wide margins and no hyphenation?

jocampo · 05-07-2013, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by AnemicOak

Yep, I'm sure. Aa menu item --> more options --> animate page turns on/off

Had an old Nook for iOs version ... :-) ... updated, I'm a happy man now with page turn animation ...

jersysman · 05-07-2013, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Felicity Grope

New to this forum and I guess I have to start somewhere so why not here? For what it's worth, I have a Sony ereader and an iPad and I can't stop reading on the iPad! I know it's wrong but I'm a sucker for that fake page turn! I find myself treating it like a real book where I begin to turn the page before I've finished reading.

Do those page turns to your delight!

Welcome to Mobileread!

Atunah · 05-08-2013, 12:09 PM

Am I the only one that had to look that word up? Yes? Ok then.

I only have e-ink kindles and Kindle Fire tables. I assume I haven't seen what this fancy word is suppose to do? I think I have seen that animation in a Ipad commercial.
I mostly just tab my Paperwhite. More like a gentle touch. Unless I hold it with one hand and have to go back a page, then I swipe with the thumb. I hold it in the right hand.

I only read a little on my Fire and it works about the same, doesn't it.

I don't think I need any fancy animation. I don't use paper books that way. With curling the page in at the bottom. I just slide in from the side. So it wouldn't replicate paper book experience for me anyway.

I am so used to the way my kindles do it now using them since 2008.

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05-06-2013, 07:19 PM	#33
wodin Illiterate Posts: 10,279 Karma: 37848716 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: The Sandwich Isles Device: Samsung Galaxy S10+, Microsoft Surface Pro	Didn't I hear a few weeks ago that Apple had the patent?

05-07-2013, 06:33 AM	#38
Felicity Grope Member Posts: 11 Karma: 66878 Join Date: May 2013 Location: London, UK Device: iPad	New to this forum and I guess I have to start somewhere so why not here? For what it's worth, I have a Sony ereader and an iPad and I can't stop reading on the iPad! I know it's wrong but I'm a sucker for that fake page turn! I find myself treating it like a real book where I begin to turn the page before I've finished reading.

05-07-2013, 10:53 AM	#41
LovesMacs Fanatic Posts: 513 Karma: 2644386 Join Date: Apr 2012 Device: iPhone, Kindle Touch	I like the illusion of a turning page. I kept my Kindle app set to this for a few months, and then I got a little tired of the effect and switched back.

05-07-2013, 11:28 AM	#42
kacir Wizard Posts: 3,463 Karma: 10684861 Join Date: May 2006 Device: PocketBook 360, before it was Sony Reader, cassiopeia A-20	I dislike skeuomorphism as done on the current generation of e-ink readers and tablet applications. I do not like having to swipe pages, I detest fake curling pageturns, I strongly dislike seeing fake book-edge. Do not get me started on tacky wooden shelves on display. Grrrrrrr!!! Phew!!! I do like effects - like spinning desktop cube when switching Linux desktops, because it makes easier for me to remember spatially what window is on what screen. I love wobbly windows and tastefully done window minimizing / maximizing animations, I like when icons on a well configured Android device behave as if the swiping motion had some mass and momentum. Effects on a reading device or application irritate me. I do not understand why Kindle offers only following three page margin choices: - very wide - extremely wide - ridiculously wide. This is an e-ink display, NOT a physical page! I want to use all the page to display text. There is bezel on the device that works like [paper] page margin. 5 pixel margin is just great on my other reader. If you really want to do skeuomorphism, why don't you try to use real typography, instead of that awful fully justified text with wide margins and no hyphenation?

05-08-2013, 12:09 PM	#45
Atunah Wizard Posts: 1,817 Karma: 23400001 Join Date: May 2012 Location: USA Device: K1/K3/BasicK Voyage/Oasis1/Oasis3	Am I the only one that had to look that word up? Yes? Ok then. I only have e-ink kindles and Kindle Fire tables. I assume I haven't seen what this fancy word is suppose to do? I think I have seen that animation in a Ipad commercial. I mostly just tab my Paperwhite. More like a gentle touch. Unless I hold it with one hand and have to go back a page, then I swipe with the thumb. I hold it in the right hand. I only read a little on my Fire and it works about the same, doesn't it. I don't think I need any fancy animation. I don't use paper books that way. With curling the page in at the bottom. I just slide in from the side. So it wouldn't replicate paper book experience for me anyway. I am so used to the way my kindles do it now using them since 2008.

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