KT connect with intranet

[LRond]

Hello guys,

is there a way to connect my KT to an access point which is not connected to the internet? i tried the usal way but it says:
"Your internet connection has failed. Contact your internet service provider for further assistance."

the network is ok so far my other divices are able to connect without any problems.

i think the problem is the kindle tries to connect to an amazon auth server or sth like this, so i need to bypass it.

My kindle touch is running on firmware 5.1.2 and is jailbroken

thanks for helping

regards,
LRond

[knc1]

Check the settings in your access point.

It should *just work* - it is not limited to Amazon Only access points.

[LRond]

my AP seems to be ok, i'm able to connect with my smartphone
the DHCP server is delivering the ip adress correctly.
so it looks for an internet connection and wont find it and cuts off the connection.

[knc1]

Originally Posted by LRond

my AP seems to be ok, i'm able to connect with my smartphone
the DHCP server is delivering the ip adress correctly.
so it looks for an internet connection and wont find it and cuts off the connection.

Add the KUAL firewall with the BBB filter enabled.
It can not contact Amazon that way.

Have you registered your Kindle?
You need to do that before even private Wifi will work.

[ixtab]

Originally Posted by knc1

Check the settings in your access point.

It should *just work* - it is not limited to Amazon Only access points.

No, AFAIK it won't "just work", because they try to connect to some Amazon server to determine if the connection is "really working". (edit: not sure if/how BBB interferes with that logic)

@LRonD:
You'll probably have to manually configure the Wifi interface. Maybe the information from this thread can be of some use. (Yes, it's somewhat outdated and would need some adapting, but it contains the commands to set up the connection). Near the end of the thread, there are also notes for WPA-PSK and WEP setups.

[LRond]

thank you both, i will try this and tell u if it's working

[knc1]

Originally Posted by ixtab

No, AFAIK it won't "just work", because they try to connect to some Amazon server to determine if the connection is "really working". (edit: not sure if/how BBB interferes with that logic)

Only to self register. But once registered, it will "just work".

And yes, the BBB filter does block those attempts.
You have to disable the filter to register the device, then re-enable it.

(Disclaimer: in **my** country, with K3, K4 and Kpw, I don't have a Ktouch nor know what country the O.P. is trying this in.)

[brianinmaine]

Originally Posted by LRond

is there a way to connect my KT to an access point which is not connected to the internet?

I am not able to either, even when using all the advanced setting. I do not think it is possible to make the connection without an internet connection?

[knc1]

Originally Posted by brianinmaine

I am not able to either, even when using all the advanced setting. I do not think it is possible to make the connection without an internet connection?

I think I have it now - - -

I run a DNS server on my LAN, behind the OutSide world firewall, on the gateway box. (and an NTP server)

What the O.P. is probably seeing is DNS failures.

[brianinmaine]

I have a "play" setup with some old blade servers not connected to the outside world - a network with about 15 computers, an old cisco switch and a junky wifi router stuck to that. The wifi router is set to not do any dhcp or dns. On my network I have dnsmasq on one slackware server set to handle the dns and dhcp. I connect easily with my laptop in either XP or linux(s) to the network fine, but I just can't seem to get the Kindle to connect.

Any ideas what I could try? It would seem to relevant to the question at hand?

[hfpop]

I am as well interested in a similar setup, but my reasoning is different: as Kindle has limited space, I want to devise a closed self-contained structure to allow me to access my library via wifi. The hypotheses of this setup are:
- the kindle library is on the sd-card of a mobile phone, exporting a wifi access point;
- the phone is not connected to the internet in any way, and there is no wifi internet connection available;
- the phone runs a simple web server to allow browsing a particular area of the sd-card and downloading files from that area.

If the Kindle (KK, KT, PW) could connect to such an "isolated" access point, we can extend the kindle space using such a "personal cloud". But I could not do it, with both kindles I have: KK and PW. The kindles are registered, so no issue here.

[knc1]

Hmm....
Must still be something about my own local network setup that lets it work.

I can't think what it might be - the KUAL BBB firewall is the only networking change to my Kindles - have not touched the /etc/hosts file or /etc/resolv.conf

The dhcp server (in the access point) which serves all wireless devices **does** send DNS and Gateway addresses (even if those things are down).

Sorry - out of ideas on this subject.

[hfpop]

@knc1: You may actually be right. In my experiment I was using the mobile phone as WiFi access point, and I am pretty sure it does not work as DNS server. Anyway, in an isolated context, such a DNS server would be fake anyway, right?

[knc1]

Originally Posted by hfpop

@knc1: You may actually be right. In my experiment I was using the mobile phone as WiFi access point, and I am pretty sure it does not work as DNS server. Anyway, in an isolated context, such a DNS server would be fake anyway, right?

Would not have to be a "fake" - just serve the "local zone" (your LAN addresses).

I would first look into what is serving the Kindle's dhcp request, check that set-up, whatever device is doing it.

The Kindle's dhcp-client writes (or could write) log files and debug files - somewhere, somehow - - -
You'll need to do a bit of research to enable them and find them.
Reading them is not a problem - they are understandable.

[LRond]

here's a short report:

tried to install KUAL BBB filters but it won't solve my problem.

next i installed WPA Enterprise, this is the config i wrote down:

Spoiler:

ssid LRond
scan_ssid 8
key_mgmt WPA-PSK
pairwise CCMP
group CCMP
proto RSN
psk 12345678
priority 5

I also connected the AP to the internet now but it still refuses the connection, all other devices still run perfektly with and without internet connection ...

here is also my hostapd and dnsmasq config, i use to run the AP, it should be ok so far

Spoiler:

hostapd.conf

Spoiler:

interface=wlan0
driver=nl80211
#dump_file=/tmp/hostapd.dump
ctrl_interface=/var/run/hostapd
ctrl_interface_group=0
ssid=LRond
country_code=DE
#ieee80211d=1
ieee80211n=1
hw_mode=g
channel=8
beacon_int=100
dtim_period=2
auth_algs=3
wmm_enabled=1
wpa=2
rsn_preauth=1
rsn_preauth_interfaces=wlan0
wpa_key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
rsn_pairwise=CCMP
wpa_passphrase=12345678

dnsmasq.conf

Spoiler:

# Never forward plain names (without a dot or domain part)
domain-needed
# Only listen for DHCP on wlan0
interface=wlan0
# create a domain if you want, comment it out otherwise
#domain=Pi-Point.co.uk
# Create a dhcp range on your /24 wlan0 network with 12 hour lease
# time
dhcp-range=interface:wlan0,192.168.2.2,192.168.2.200,12 h
# Send an empty WPAD option. This may be REQUIRED to get windows 7 to
#behave. dhcp-option=252,"\n"