|  04-29-2013, 11:54 AM | #16 | 
| eBook Enthusiast            Posts: 85,560 Karma: 93980341 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6 | 
			
			Precisely. Whether an author has plumbing of the convex or concave variety has never been of the slightest interest to me when buying books.
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|  04-29-2013, 11:54 AM | #17 | ||
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 6,111 Karma: 34000001 Join Date: Mar 2008 Device: KPW1, KA1 | Quote: 
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 === Now that I'm writing my own fantasy story (at least, trying to), it has two major male characters one of which is the protagonist, two major female characters, and one major character that is female in this story, but she has the capability to be male, if she'd want to or needed to. The strange thing is that scenes and plots literally form themselves around the three female characters without any troube, and that I actually have to watch out that the two males (and so, the protagonist) don't degrade into some sort of sidekicks. I'm actually toying with the idea of turning one of the three females into a male, and turn the protagonist into a female, to be able to think up plots easier, centered around the protagonist. If I'd do that, the story would probably turn into "fantasy for girls" at some point. === So I do read works written by women, listen to women singers mostly, and feel that I write easier about, and for, women than I do for men. And I'm a guy, go figure. Maybe I'll just assume the pseudonym of "Mary Cassidy" or something, if I ever decide to publish this. Maybe I'm just weird. Last edited by Katsunami; 04-29-2013 at 11:59 AM. | ||
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|  04-29-2013, 12:00 PM | #18 | 
| Cheese Whiz            Posts: 1,986 Karma: 11677147 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Springfield, Illinois Device: Kindle PW, Samsung Tab A 10.1(2019), Pixel 6a. | 
			
			All, from an older generation of writers, none of whom are concerned with marketing their work currently.  How many modern men writers use initials?  Not many I bet.  The use of initials has become a sort of code to indicate that the author is a woman not writing romance novels.
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|  04-29-2013, 12:30 PM | #19 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 2,146 Karma: 11174187 Join Date: Jan 2011 Device: Sony 350, K3-3G, K4SO, KPW | 
			
			I did a minor self-poll a bit ago, and found, just looking at the reading I did last year, most of the books I've read (both fiction and non-fiction) were written by women - and that I enjoyed the books by women better than I did the ones by men (both fiction and non-fiction, interestingly enough). Part of it seems to be that the male authors I read wrote primarily plot-driven books, and I prefer character-driven novels. A notable exception was Mr. Penumbra's 24 Hour Bookstore, written by a male (Robin Sloan, I think), but definitely character-driven.
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|  04-29-2013, 01:26 PM | #20 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 1,747 Karma: 3761220 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Pennsylvania Device: T1 Red, Kindle Fire, Kindle PW, PW2, Nook HD+, Kobo Mini, Aura HD | 
			
			I don't know about men not reading books written by women, could have been true in the very distant past, but I do not think it holds too true today.  Most of my favorite authors that I read are females and that is in all genres that I read.  One genre where that is not true is non-fiction historical books.  I do not have one book in that genre that was written by a woman.  At least I don't think it was.
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|  04-29-2013, 01:33 PM | #21 | 
| Cheese Whiz            Posts: 1,986 Karma: 11677147 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Springfield, Illinois Device: Kindle PW, Samsung Tab A 10.1(2019), Pixel 6a. | 
			
			Then we'd be discussing the merits of low first digit serial numbers versus high.  Or the fact that women get certain sorts of numbers while men do not.
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|  04-29-2013, 02:09 PM | #22 | |
| Wizard            Posts: 1,221 Karma: 8381518 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Oaxaca, Mexico Device: Paperwhite 4 X 2 | Quote: 
 I assume a name with initials is a woman. I assume a gender neutral name is more likely to be a woman than not. There are a few women authors I read, mostly older books, but as a rule I prefer male authors. | |
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|  04-29-2013, 02:37 PM | #23 | |
| Interested Bystander            Posts: 3,726 Karma: 19728152 Join Date: Jun 2008 Device: Note 4, Kobo One | Quote: 
 Didn't seem to hurt Agatha Christie, Dorothy L Sayers, Patricia Wentworth, Ngaio Marsh... Golden age crime fiction was completely dominated by women (writing as women), and I don't believe that men didn't read them. And no boys read Enid Blyton growing up? | |
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|  04-29-2013, 03:00 PM | #24 | 
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 11,310 Karma: 43993832 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Monroe Wisconsin Device: K3, Kindle Paperwhite, Calibre, and Mobipocket for  Pc (netbook) | 
			
			I think the idea of women using initials or male sounding names was prevalent back in the early 20th century. Leigh Brackett sounds male for example, but she was Edmund Hamilton's wife. Also back when George Elliot wrote most writer's were male I think. Even Mary Shelley used a pen name when she initially went to get Frankenstein published.
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|  04-29-2013, 03:09 PM | #25 | |
| Philosopher            Posts: 2,034 Karma: 18736532 Join Date: Jan 2012 Device: Kindle Paperwhite 2 gen, Kindle Fire 1st Gen, Kindle Touch | Quote: 
 It really depended on the genre, and it may have been more a matter of what publishers thought about the market. If the publisher insisted that the author disguise their gender, there wasn't much choice but to do so. | |
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|  04-29-2013, 03:38 PM | #26 | |
| Cheese Whiz            Posts: 1,986 Karma: 11677147 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Springfield, Illinois Device: Kindle PW, Samsung Tab A 10.1(2019), Pixel 6a. | Quote: 
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|  04-29-2013, 03:46 PM | #27 | 
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|  04-29-2013, 04:29 PM | #28 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 2,146 Karma: 11174187 Join Date: Jan 2011 Device: Sony 350, K3-3G, K4SO, KPW | 
			
			I don't think men preferring men authors is idiotic, stupid, or evil, unless the reason they do so is because they feel that women either shouldn't be authors or that a woman author is automatically lesser simply by virtue of being a woman. Any given male may prefer "men's fiction" - that is, lots of action, maybe some sex, but not heavy on emotion. (I started to make a comment about psychological complexity of characters, but since I don't tend to read "men's fiction", I really can't make a judgement there.)(I tried a Lee Child book once, and while the plot moved at breakneck speed, I could have done without the 8 pages of gun porn where the specifics of the gun, the flight of the bullet, and the effect of the bullet on the victim's head were described in almost loving detail). It has been my experience that men tend to write more plot-driven books and women more character-driven books, but that could be selection bias on my part. It is true that male reviewers tend to review more books by male authors than they do female authors by a pretty wide margin - that smacks of discrimination. | 
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|  04-29-2013, 04:38 PM | #29 | 
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 19,226 Karma: 67780237 Join Date: Jul 2011 Device: none | 
			
			Who is Enid Blyton? I do tend to read male authors, but I look more about the story plot than anything else when picking a book and right now to buck the trend I'm reading books by two female authors, Catherynne M. Valente and Diane Duane. | 
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|  04-29-2013, 05:02 PM | #30 | |
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