KUAL: Kindle Unified Application Launcher (v2.7) - Page 25

twobob · 02-11-2013, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NiLuJe

FWIW, if you want verbose feedback on the USBNetwork front, you're welcome to force-enable the 'verbose' setting in the helper: touch /mnt/us/usbnet/verbose. That'll throw a bunch of eips prints at various points of the process

.

Thanks! why dont I put that on a toggle button.

Verbose ON OFF

Thank you!!

EDIT:

Hmm.. I like this.. no toggle required AFAIC

Code:

#!/bin/sh
DIRECTION=DOWN
LOC=/mnt/us/usbnet

if [ ! -e $LOC/verbose ]
then
touch $LOC/verbose
fi

usleep 10000
$LOC/bin/usbnetwork 
usleep 50000

if [ -e $LOC/run/sshd.pid ]
then
DIRECTION=UP
/usr/bin/lipc-set-prop -i -- com.lab126.volumd useUsbForNetwork 1
else
/usr/bin/lipc-set-prop -i -- com.lab126.volumd useUsbForNetwork 0
fi
eips 1 38 " USBNETWORKING $DIRECTION (PROCESS COMPLETE)"

I think I will do something like that.

PoP · 02-12-2013, 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NiLuJe

FWIW, if you want verbose feedback on the USBNetwork front, you're welcome to force-enable the 'verbose' setting in the helper: touch /mnt/us/usbnet/verbose. That'll throw a bunch of eips prints at various points of the process

.

Ahh, thanks! I've aways been afraid in the dark. Yet another trigger file to add to my collection (BTW would be nice to have *all* your hacks trigger files documented in a list).

Quote:

Originally Posted by twobob

Hmm.. I like this.. no toggle required AFAIC ...[CODE]...

Me too.

April_7th · 02-12-2013, 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PoP

Ahh, thanks! I've aways been afraid in the dark. Yet another trigger file to add to my collection (BTW would be nice to have *all* your hacks trigger files documented in a list).

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=205064

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=205052

twobob · 02-12-2013, 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PoP

It's good

Quote:

Originally Posted by April_7th

They're here

Will update helper package tonight then (will look at rolling in other additional changes)

Thanks!!

knc1 · 02-12-2013, 10:23 AM

Transfer of the newer document (actually, any document) by scp to the documents folder **might not** trigger the firmware to re-scan the documents folder (causing what appears to be a display lock-up).

So after:

Code:

core2quad kual-v.0.3.2 $ scp KindleLauncher-2.0.azw2 kpw:/mnt/us/documents
KindleLauncher-2.0.azw2                      100%   84KB  84.0KB/s   00:00

Force a re-scan of the documents folder by:

Code:

core2quad kual-v.0.3.2 $ ssh kpw "dbus-send --system /default com.lab126.powerd.resuming int32:1"

This problem can happen with firmware as recent as 5.3.3 (Kpw).

twobob · 02-12-2013, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knc1

Transfer of the newer document (actually, any document) by scp to the documents folder **might not** trigger the firmware to re-scan the documents folder (causing what appears to be a display lock-up).

So after:

Code:

core2quad kual-v.0.3.2 $ scp KindleLauncher-2.0.azw2 kpw:/mnt/us/documents
KindleLauncher-2.0.azw2                      100%   84KB  84.0KB/s   00:00

Force a re-scan of the documents folder by:

Code:

core2quad kual-v.0.3.2 $ ssh kpw "dbus-send --system /default com.lab126.powerd.resuming int32:1"

This problem can happen with firmware as recent as 5.3.3 (Kpw).

Good to know. Thanks for the PW update!

Im on chat for half an hour now.
Have done the USBnetworking changes to the helper.

will publish later probably

twobob · 02-12-2013, 01:56 PM

STANDARDS...

User KNC1 Just raised a point about centralisation of resource.

He is addressing the age old problem of standardised resource locations for the extensions to reference.

This does two obvious things:
(and a crapload of other "less obvious" things that we are going to ignore)

1) Increases the intitial D/L size.
2) Decreases application bloat through re-use of shared resources.

Libs aside for just one second let's think about binaries...

BINARIES

The big OBVIOUS difference for the range of device would be the swap from 4 to 8 bit FB; Thus any applications that call upon system-supported graphics based libs would likely fail when applied to all devices.

That is "Not Okay." and until a gtk equivalent solution can be provisioned to step around these graphics limitations then it is fair to say that things like a "terminal" won't be in this list.

but other system-based utilities such as BASH - compiled to run on all KUAL supported devices could well make it into there. if anyone wants to add to this pile then using the 2007q3 CS TC is not a bad choice.

ADDING TO THE /mnt/us/extensions/system FOLDER.
in a word "DONT", I'm thinking of making it immutable or something to really really stop people doing that.

GIT

I'm going to setup a GIT repo it will eventually hold a /lib /etc and a /bin folder. and some content.

https://bitbucket.org/twobob/kual-system

If you want something included in a future release put a pull request into that.
AFTER you checked the stuff runs on all devices.

WHY?

Hey. It's not perfect. but it's a start. Personally I'm tired of my HUGE list of stuff in /mnt/us and will be glad to get some (or all) of the support stuff, and (hopefully one day) applications.... all squirrelled away under one folder extensions on all devices.

It's just simpler to maintain.

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?

Right now. Nothing. Keep going ahead building your stuff just like you build it now. I'm noting this stuff down here as an aide mémoire and a slow hopeful wend towards some kinds of standards. The list of failed attempts to standardise development on the kindle is long and dull.

Not keen for this to go on that list.

Just be aware as a developer there may be some extra options soon

MAKE IT WORK!

And yes. You guys who build for the touch with gtk.. if you simply build two versions. one targetting the older FB versions of the graphics libs and one targetting the newer X versions this works to make an application that has a version for all devices.

I will demonstrate that principle RSN.

I'm playing with the idea of exporting these things "run-time" on a first-pass check basis.
still unsure about that. in fact the delivery details are a bit hazy all-in.

more later.

twobob · 02-12-2013, 09:52 PM

UPDATE

Posted Update HELPER package.

This one has new naming for buttons.
Additional eink notifications for usbnetworking.

DuckieTigger · 02-13-2013, 01:12 AM

@twobob: centralization: sounds interesting. If there is a requirement for a shell, it should have something in the json like: $SHELL -e somescript.sh - and then to run it on you don't need the same shell, but one that works on your kindle. Then it could use xterm or kterm, or whichever shell works on older kindles. Doesn't have to ask for kterm specifically, but for A shell - any shell.

wolftail · 02-13-2013, 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twobob

Personally I'm tired of my HUGE list of stuff in /mnt/us and will be glad to get some (or all) of the support stuff, and (hopefully one day) applications.... all squirrelled away under one folder extensions on all devices.

This is awesome! No, wait... YOU are awesome!
I've tried to raise awareness about standardization and the messy filesystem a while ago, but nothing came out of it... https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=176822
I really like the direction KUAL is heading and I hope this will allow for easier and faster development for Kindles.

twobob · 02-13-2013, 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolftail

This is awesome! No, wait... YOU are awesome!
I've tried to raise awareness about standardization and the messy filesystem a while ago, but nothing came out of it... https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=176822
I really like the direction KUAL is heading and I hope this will allow for easier and faster development for Kindles.

To be honest I had read that exact document when you released it.

"The Launcher could be updated and converted into an asw2 app capable of displaying icons in a grid pattern (like other mobile OSes), maintain a simple database of the current apps (no app folders to describe apps) and include the simple package manager I described before. Since this proposed Launcher will also manage the Apps, maybe it should have its name changed.
"

Kual idea mate.

prescient to be mentioned in there. Lots of good points in there

No doubt that Ixtab and the other devs have read it too. So perhaps actually "Something" did come of it.

Gave it another read now. They are good points. perhaps, given time. some may be implemented.

And for the record: I am merely riding on the shoulders of giants.
Still, lovely view.

more on these things when there is something to share.

REFS:
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...3&postcount=83
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho....php?p=1985217
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=176822
And more...

knc1 · 02-13-2013, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolftail

This is awesome! No, wait... YOU are awesome!
I've tried to raise awareness about standardization and the messy filesystem a while ago, but nothing came out of it... https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=176822
I really like the direction KUAL is heading and I hope this will allow for easier and faster development for Kindles.

There is a significant difference. . .
You proposed that it should be done, rather than start doing it yourself to lead the way and propose that others follow you.

twobob put the horse in front of the cart by starting to do it and then explaining why others should follow.
It is something called: "Leadership by Example" in my country.

twobob · 02-13-2013, 07:38 PM

NEW EXTENDEROONEE

TITLE: Set DateTime from Server

SUPPORTS:

DX No (since the wifi is missing)
K3 Yes ( All Revisions over wifi )
K4 Yes ( All Revisions over wifi )
Touch Yes ( All Revisions over wifi )
PW Yes ( All Revisions over wifi )

REQUIRES: Wifi connection

LINK: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=205732

AUTHOR: knc1

NOTES: requires wifi

This extension will make the Time Date update upon demand.

As requested countless times in countless posts

twobob · 02-13-2013, 07:46 PM

hehehe.

I´m so silly.

(files should be okay on a touch. haven´t tested them elsewhere just yet.)

Quote:

NAME
FIGlet - display large characters made up of ordinary screen characters

SYNOPSIS
figlet [ -cklnoprstvxDELNRSWX ] [ -d fontdirectory ]
[ -f fontfile ] [ -m layoutmode ]
[ -w outputwidth ] [ -C controlfile ]
[ -I infocode ] [ message ]

[root@kindle figlet-figlet]# eips -c; count=2; font=lean; ./bin/figlet-figlet -w 48 -d ./share -f $font "KUAL EINK FUN " | sed -e 's/ / /g'| tr ' _/' ' ()' | wh
ile read line ; do if [ $count -lt 2 ]; then eips ""; fi; eips 2 $count "$line"
; count=$((count+1)); echo $count; done

wolftail · 02-14-2013, 05:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knc1

There is a significant difference. . .
You proposed that it should be done, rather than start doing it yourself to lead the way and propose that others follow you.

twobob put the horse in front of the cart by starting to do it and then explaining why others should follow.
It is something called: "Leadership by Example" in my country.

I would have loved to contribute, but I don't have the necessary experience

so I did the only thing I could: share my thoughts and ideas.

02-12-2013, 10:23 AM	#365
knc1 Going Viral Posts: 17,212 Karma: 18210809 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Central Texas Device: No K1, PW2, KV, KOA	Upgrade note for ssh/scp users Transfer of the newer document (actually, any document) by scp to the documents folder might not trigger the firmware to re-scan the documents folder (causing what appears to be a display lock-up). So after: Code: core2quad kual-v.0.3.2 $ scp KindleLauncher-2.0.azw2 kpw:/mnt/us/documents KindleLauncher-2.0.azw2 100% 84KB 84.0KB/s 00:00 Force a re-scan of the documents folder by: Code: core2quad kual-v.0.3.2 $ ssh kpw "dbus-send --system /default com.lab126.powerd.resuming int32:1" This problem can happen with firmware as recent as 5.3.3 (Kpw).

02-12-2013, 01:56 PM	#367
twobob ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°){ʇlnɐɟ ƃǝs}Týr Posts: 6,586 Karma: 6299993 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: uti gratia usura (Yao ying da ying; Mo ying da yieng) Device: PW-WIFI\|K5-3G+WIFI\| K4\|K3-3G\|DXG\|K2\| Rooted Nook Touch	SYSTEM STANDARDS... User KNC1 Just raised a point about centralisation of resource. He is addressing the age old problem of standardised resource locations for the extensions to reference. This does two obvious things: (and a crapload of other "less obvious" things that we are going to ignore) 1) Increases the intitial D/L size. 2) Decreases application bloat through re-use of shared resources. Libs aside for just one second let's think about binaries... BINARIES The big OBVIOUS difference for the range of device would be the swap from 4 to 8 bit FB; Thus any applications that call upon system-supported graphics based libs would likely fail when applied to all devices. That is "Not Okay." and until a gtk equivalent solution can be provisioned to step around these graphics limitations then it is fair to say that things like a "terminal" won't be in this list. but other system-based utilities such as BASH - compiled to run on all KUAL supported devices could well make it into there. if anyone wants to add to this pile then using the 2007q3 CS TC is not a bad choice. *ADDING TO THE /mnt/us/extensions/system* FOLDER. in a word "DONT", I'm thinking of making it immutable or something to really really stop people doing that. GIT I'm going to setup a GIT repo it will eventually hold a /lib /etc and a /bin folder. and some content. https://bitbucket.org/twobob/kual-system If you want something included in a future release put a pull request into that. AFTER you checked the stuff runs on all devices. WHY? Hey. It's not perfect. but it's a start. Personally I'm tired of my HUGE list of stuff in /mnt/us and will be glad to get some (or all) of the support stuff, and (hopefully one day) applications.... all squirrelled away under one folder extensions on all devices. It's just simpler to maintain. WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? Right now. Nothing. Keep going ahead building your stuff just like you build it now. I'm noting this stuff down here as an aide mémoire and a slow hopeful wend towards some kinds of standards. The list of failed attempts to standardise development on the kindle is long and dull. Not keen for this to go on that list. Just be aware as a developer there may be some extra options soon MAKE IT WORK!** And yes. You guys who build for the touch with gtk.. if you simply build two versions. one targetting the older FB versions of the graphics libs and one targetting the newer X versions this works to make an application that has a version for all devices. I will demonstrate that principle RSN. I'm playing with the idea of exporting these things "run-time" on a first-pass check basis. still unsure about that. in fact the delivery details are a bit hazy all-in. more later. Last edited by twobob; 02-12-2013 at 09:42 PM.

02-12-2013, 09:52 PM	#368
twobob ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°){ʇlnɐɟ ƃǝs}Týr Posts: 6,586 Karma: 6299993 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: uti gratia usura (Yao ying da ying; Mo ying da yieng) Device: PW-WIFI\|K5-3G+WIFI\| K4\|K3-3G\|DXG\|K2\| Rooted Nook Touch	UPDATE Posted Update HELPER package. This one has new naming for buttons. Additional eink notifications for usbnetworking.

02-13-2013, 07:38 PM	#373
twobob ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°){ʇlnɐɟ ƃǝs}Týr Posts: 6,586 Karma: 6299993 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: uti gratia usura (Yao ying da ying; Mo ying da yieng) Device: PW-WIFI\|K5-3G+WIFI\| K4\|K3-3G\|DXG\|K2\| Rooted Nook Touch	NEW EXTENDEROONEE TITLE: Set DateTime from Server SUPPORTS: DX No (since the wifi is missing) K3 Yes ( All Revisions over wifi ) K4 Yes ( All Revisions over wifi ) Touch Yes ( All Revisions over wifi ) PW Yes ( All Revisions over wifi ) REQUIRES: Wifi connection LINK: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=205732 AUTHOR: knc1 NOTES: requires wifi This extension will make the Time Date update upon demand. As requested countless times in countless posts

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Launcher icon for KUAL?	Aeris	Kindle Developer's Corner	32	04-01-2021 07:57 PM
kite: kindle 3 application launcher	fbdev	Kindle Developer's Corner	86	10-18-2017 10:19 AM
[KUAL]Kindle reflective screen loader	icantbebothered	Kindle Developer's Corner	26	10-27-2013 09:08 AM
Kual shortcut for hidden image viewer (Kindle Touch & PW)	Aeris	Kindle Developer's Corner	0	10-12-2013 05:09 AM
application launcher for kindle 3 (kite)	fbdev	Kindle Developer's Corner	21	05-04-2012 06:02 PM

02-13-2013, 01:12 AM	#369
DuckieTigger Wizard Posts: 4,764 Karma: 246906703 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: USA Device: Oasis 3, Oasis 2, PW3, PW1, KT	@twobob: centralization: sounds interesting. If there is a requirement for a shell, it should have something in the json like: $SHELL -e somescript.sh - and then to run it on you don't need the same shell, but one that works on your kindle. Then it could use xterm or kterm, or whichever shell works on older kindles. Doesn't have to ask for kterm specifically, but for A shell - any shell.