e-Ink tablet anyone?

Kumabjorn · 02-13-2013, 08:34 AM

I have a fair amount of tablets and e-Readers. The only thing really missing for me would be a 7" or 10" e-Ink tablet. Android, iOS or Win8, don't really care. Does anyone know of such a device? Is there anything like that in the pipeline? Will we never see it?

HarryT · 02-13-2013, 08:41 AM

The 9.7" Onyx M92 can supposedly run Android. I don't know how well, though.

Kumabjorn · 02-13-2013, 10:11 AM

I suppose it is possible to root one of my Sony readers, but I would like support for things like Bluetooth and keyboards.

Katsunami · 02-13-2013, 12:35 PM

It would not be useful I think.

Pick a 9.7" inch e-reader and try to browse on it (assuming there is one that has a browser). Scrolling is irritating. Reaction time is slow. You can't watch any movies... You can't play many games (apart from maybe Chess and Go, or Sudoku).

Kumabjorn · 02-13-2013, 12:58 PM

I don't expect it to replace any of my Android tablets. I want it as a complement, something I'm able to use outdoors even in the brightest sunshine.

susan_cassidy · 02-13-2013, 01:05 PM

I think most people that are interested in a tablet want to be able to play games and watch videos, which e-ink cannot really do.

ucfgrad93 · 02-13-2013, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Katsunami

It would not be useful I think.

Pick a 9.7" inch e-reader and try to browse on it (assuming there is one that has a browser). Scrolling is irritating. Reaction time is slow. You can't watch any movies... You can't play many games (apart from maybe Chess and Go, or Sudoku).

Agreed. It would be an awful user experience.

4691mls · 02-13-2013, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ucfgrad93

Agreed. It would be an awful user experience.

Yeah. I have the Sony PRS-T1 and it's great for reading, and the web browser is usable for downloading books from the library and Sony store, but I can't imagine trying to use it for anything else.

QuantumIguana · 02-13-2013, 01:34 PM

Very few people would want it, which would make the price very high, even if there was enough demand to get it to market in the first place. When e-ink has the color and refresh rate of LCD, then there would be a market for an e-ink tablet.

Katsunami · 02-13-2013, 01:54 PM

My tablet is better than my ereader at anything I want to do.

Except reading. The ereader is smaller, lighter, thinner. Longer battery life, up to 2 weeks (for me). No backlight. Reading in full daylight and sunshine. And I don't want a tablet the size of an ereader, and don't want to do multimedia stuff on the ereader.

That is why I have both.

Ereaders and tablets will someday merge. We'll get full color, super fast eInk, or we'll get non-reflective LCD's that can be both backlit and frontlit. But not yet....

artifact · 02-13-2013, 05:12 PM

I think the Notion Ink Adam would have qualified (I'm using past tense because the Notion Ink website looks dead.) Android, PixelQi screen which they ruined by putting glossy glass over the top, and IIRC it had a buggy implementation and never delivered.

There may be something from PixelQi in the works, but they sure have been very, very quiet for the past year. I never saw an actual product come in the wake of their 'better than Retina' hype.

spaced-out · 02-13-2013, 06:40 PM

I do a lot of those things, watch videos and play games on my nook simple touch. It's rooted with android 2.1. Here is a video of it playing Toy Story below. If you look at my other videos, it does weird things for a cheap ereader.

Since I made the videos there have been better apps for the refreshing . Maybe I'll update one someday. It now has a kernel that overclocks it to 1Ghz from 800Mhz, and all the games run at full speed. I do have a video of it playing nintendo 64 (super mario 64) but havent uploaded it to youtube. It's from the old kernel, kinda slow!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8MY26rwXuc

xendula · 02-13-2013, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spaced-out

I do a lot of those things, watch videos and play games on my nook simple touch. It's rooted with android 2.1. Here is a video of it playing Toy Story below. If you look at my other videos, it does weird things for a cheap ereader.

Since I made the videos there have been better apps for the refreshing . Maybe I'll update one someday. It now has a kernel that overclocks it to 1Ghz from 800Mhz, and all the games run at full speed. I do have a video of it playing nintendo 64 (super mario 64) but havent uploaded it to youtube. It's from the old kernel, kinda slow!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8MY26rwXuc

Wow, I cannot believe this is a Nook ST! I shouldn't have returned the one I bought!

I'd love to have an eink tablet able to browse and do email precisely for outdoors and for less eye strain. It would have a place right next to my traditional tablets, phones and kindles.

Katsunami · 02-13-2013, 09:37 PM

Hah, LOL

A video would have looked like that had you been able to play it on an 80's notebook with a black and white screen

Xendula: doesn't one of the 9.7 inch readers have a webbrowser with which you can use webmail?

Feher · 02-14-2013, 04:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kumabjorn

Is there anything like that in the pipeline?

Onyx has announced that it is trying to bring an android based ereader in Q3 this year. According to Booxter of Onyx forum, we may see it in as early as march. Other manufacturers are probably working on it but nobody else has announced it.
According to booxter, we may see android ported on existing onyx devices too (m92 and i62) but i have some doubts regarding this
Onyx already is set to launch android based eink smartphone. It was showcased at CES this year.
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...1&postcount=11

Quote:

Originally Posted by spaced-out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8MY26rwXuc

Awesome!

02-13-2013, 08:34 AM	#1
Kumabjorn Basculocolpic Posts: 4,356 Karma: 20181319 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Sweden Device: Kindle 3 WiFi, Kindle 4SO, Kindle for Android, Sony PRS-350 and PRS-T1	e-Ink tablet anyone? I have a fair amount of tablets and e-Readers. The only thing really missing for me would be a 7" or 10" e-Ink tablet. Android, iOS or Win8, don't really care. Does anyone know of such a device? Is there anything like that in the pipeline? Will we never see it?

02-13-2013, 01:54 PM	#10
Katsunami Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,111 Karma: 34000001 Join Date: Mar 2008 Device: KPW1, KA1	My tablet is better than my ereader at anything I want to do. Except reading. The ereader is smaller, lighter, thinner. Longer battery life, up to 2 weeks (for me). No backlight. Reading in full daylight and sunshine. And I don't want a tablet the size of an ereader, and don't want to do multimedia stuff on the ereader. That is why I have both. Ereaders and tablets will someday merge. We'll get full color, super fast eInk, or we'll get non-reflective LCD's that can be both backlit and frontlit. But not yet.... Last edited by Katsunami; 02-13-2013 at 01:56 PM.

02-13-2013, 05:12 PM	#11
artifact Addict Posts: 276 Karma: 3569616 Join Date: Feb 2009 Device: jetBook (RIP), Kobo Touch	I think the Notion Ink Adam would have qualified (I'm using past tense because the Notion Ink website looks dead.) Android, PixelQi screen which they ruined by putting glossy glass over the top, and IIRC it had a buggy implementation and never delivered. There may be something from PixelQi in the works, but they sure have been very, very quiet for the past year. I never saw an actual product come in the wake of their 'better than Retina' hype. Last edited by artifact; 02-13-2013 at 05:15 PM.

02-13-2013, 06:40 PM	#12
spaced-out Junior Member Posts: 3 Karma: 10 Join Date: Feb 2013 Device: nook simple touch	I do a lot of those things, watch videos and play games on my nook simple touch. It's rooted with android 2.1. Here is a video of it playing Toy Story below. If you look at my other videos, it does weird things for a cheap ereader. Since I made the videos there have been better apps for the refreshing . Maybe I'll update one someday. It now has a kernel that overclocks it to 1Ghz from 800Mhz, and all the games run at full speed. I do have a video of it playing nintendo 64 (super mario 64) but havent uploaded it to youtube. It's from the old kernel, kinda slow! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8MY26rwXuc Last edited by spaced-out; 02-13-2013 at 06:42 PM. Reason: additions

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02-13-2013, 08:41 AM	#2
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,560 Karma: 93980341 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	The 9.7" Onyx M92 can supposedly run Android. I don't know how well, though.

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Kumabjorn Basculocolpic Posts: 4,356 Karma: 20181319 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Sweden Device: Kindle 3 WiFi, Kindle 4SO, Kindle for Android, Sony PRS-350 and PRS-T1	I suppose it is possible to root one of my Sony readers, but I would like support for things like Bluetooth and keyboards.

02-13-2013, 12:35 PM	#4
Katsunami Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,111 Karma: 34000001 Join Date: Mar 2008 Device: KPW1, KA1	It would not be useful I think. Pick a 9.7" inch e-reader and try to browse on it (assuming there is one that has a browser). Scrolling is irritating. Reaction time is slow. You can't watch any movies... You can't play many games (apart from maybe Chess and Go, or Sudoku).

02-13-2013, 12:58 PM	#5
Kumabjorn Basculocolpic Posts: 4,356 Karma: 20181319 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Sweden Device: Kindle 3 WiFi, Kindle 4SO, Kindle for Android, Sony PRS-350 and PRS-T1	I don't expect it to replace any of my Android tablets. I want it as a complement, something I'm able to use outdoors even in the brightest sunshine.

02-13-2013, 01:05 PM	#6
susan_cassidy Wizard Posts: 2,251 Karma: 3720310 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: USA Device: Kindle, iPad (not used much for reading)	I think most people that are interested in a tablet want to be able to play games and watch videos, which e-ink cannot really do.

02-13-2013, 01:34 PM	#9
QuantumIguana Philosopher Posts: 2,034 Karma: 18736532 Join Date: Jan 2012 Device: Kindle Paperwhite 2 gen, Kindle Fire 1st Gen, Kindle Touch	Very few people would want it, which would make the price very high, even if there was enough demand to get it to market in the first place. When e-ink has the color and refresh rate of LCD, then there would be a market for an e-ink tablet.

02-13-2013, 09:37 PM	#14
Katsunami Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,111 Karma: 34000001 Join Date: Mar 2008 Device: KPW1, KA1	Hah, LOL A video would have looked like that had you been able to play it on an 80's notebook with a black and white screen Xendula: doesn't one of the 9.7 inch readers have a webbrowser with which you can use webmail?