Touch .kepub.epub

[latepaul]

David - when you say you're integrating Joel's code are you making it an option or is it going to become the way epubs are handled in general by the driver? FWIW my vote would be for optional - then we can switch back if there are problems.

[PeterT]

I will admit I'm not at all in favour of the renaming of epub to epub.kepub. I feel that by making it automatic we are creating an entirely new support / stability issue for Kobo.

Making it simple for JQ Public to put each and every book into the wrong renderer engine is not wise.

[davidfor]

Originally Posted by latepaul

David - when you say you're integrating Joel's code are you making it an option or is it going to become the way epubs are handled in general by the driver? FWIW my vote would be for optional - then we can switch back if there are problems.

It will definitely be optional. And definitely off by default. And if I could trigger a "Are you really sure you want to do this?" question, I would.

Originally Posted by PeterT

I will admit I'm not at all in favour of the renaming of epub to epub.kepub. I feel that by making it automatic we are creating an entirely new support / stability issue for Kobo.

Making it simple for JQ Public to put each and every book into the wrong renderer engine is not wise.

That's one of the reasons I have hesitated so far. But, you can force the renderer change by simply adding ".kepub" to the save template. As I said, if I see any problems, I will stop. I thought of one almost as soon as I made my post last night that will be a showstopper if it doesn't work with no other changes.

[fx3000se]

I played around with Joel's plugin this weekend. Any epub-book (.kepub) sent to my Kobo Mini had problems remembering the last page read

Disabling the plugin and deleting/re-sending the epub solved the issue ...

Anybody else?

[ameer]

I have this problem of remembering the last page after changing the extension to .kepub.epub, although I changed&copied it manually using windows explorer
any idea to make kobo remember the last page?

[Mrs_Often]

Originally Posted by ameer

I have this problem of remembering the last page after changing the extension to .kepub.epub, although I changed&copied it manually using windows explorer
any idea to make kobo remember the last page?

This just sounds like the regular bug the latest firmware has.

[tshering]

Originally Posted by ameer

any idea to make kobo remember the last page?

I just tested two of my (handmade) kepub.epub files. One remembers the position correctly, the other does not. One difference is that the book that remembers correctly has no margin values defined in the stylesheet, whereas the other has. The position of the margin slider in the font settings menu does not seem to have any effect on this. I did not check other books, so it might just be a coincidence. Try removing margin definitions. If it helps please tell us.

[Mrs_Often]

Originally Posted by tshering

I just tested two of my (handmade) kepub.epub files. One remembers the position correctly, the other does not. One difference is that the book that remembers correctly has no margin values defined in the stylesheet, whereas the other has. The position of the margin slider in the font settings menu does not seem to have any effect on this. I did not check other books, so it might just be a coincidence. Try removing margin definitions. If it helps please tell us.

Yes, that is the temporary fix for the current firmware bug: set margins to 0 or more easily slide the slider in the book settings when reading all the way down to the left. Then the books will remember the page you're on.

[tshering]

Originally Posted by Mrs_Often

Yes, that is the temporary fix for the current firmware bug: set margins to 0 or more easily slide the slider in the book settings when reading all the way down to the left. Then the books will remember the page you're on.

This is the work around for epub. Right?
The two cases of kepub.epub that I described are different from that. Book 1 (margins set to greater than 0 in css) never remembers the page, irrespective of the slider position. Book 2 (no margin definition at all in the css) always remembers the page, irrespective of the slider position.

[Mrs_Often]

Originally Posted by tshering

This is the work around for epub. Right?
The two cases of kepub.epub that I described are different from that. Book 1 (margins set to greater than 0 in css) never remembers the page, irrespective of the slider position. Book 2 (no margin definition at all in the css) always remembers the page, irrespective of the slider position.

I'm not quite sure what the difference is... to me, it sounds like margins >0 is no page memory and margins = 0 is perfect page memory, in both epubs and kepubs? Or are you saying something else I'm not getting?

[tshering]

Mrs_Often,
I am sorry for being unclear! To my mind the differences are:
1)

more easily slide the slider in the book settings when reading all the way down to the left.

does not work for

Book 1 (margins set to greater than 0 in css) never remembers the page, irrespective of the slider position.

I understand "irrespective of the slider position" as implying also the position one arrives by sliding the "the slider ... all the way down to the left."
2)

margins >0 is no page memory

does not hold in the case of

Book 2 (no margin definition at all in the css) always remembers the page, irrespective of the slider position.

By this I mean to say that I can set the margins to >0 by moving the slider to the right without having negative side effects.
But since my observations are made only with respect to 2 books, they might not be indicative of the general situation.

[Mrs_Often]

Aaah right I get it now. Sorry, I didn't understand what you meant with "slider" position. For some reason I was thinking in terms of page-slider, but of course it's the margin slider.

Originally Posted by tshering

Mrs_Often,
I am sorry for being unclear!

No problem, we got it cleared up

Originally Posted by tshering

To my mind the differences are:
1)
does not work for

I understand "irrespective of the slider position" as implying also the position one arrives by sliding the "the slider ... all the way down to the left."
2)
does not hold in the case of

By this I mean to say that I can set the margins to >0 by moving the slider to the right without having negative side effects.
But since my observations are made only with respect to 2 books, they might not be indicative of the general situation.

Okay so there is a big difference with what I was saying, as what I said went against both your examples.

Nevertheless, what you describe might still be the same bug I was describing, only my description was based on only a couple of examples with few details. It may well be that there were no margin specifics in the CSS stylesheet for instances in my examples. What you describe is so similar to "the" bug that I can hardly imagine them being two separate things.

But, then again, maybe they are who knows.

[davidfor]

@tschering: Have you added the ids into kepub.epubs you tested with? The ids are used for the bookmarking. Without them, it will at best open to the same chapter.

[tshering]

Originally Posted by davidfor

@tschering: Have you added the ids into kepub.epubs you tested with? The ids are used for the bookmarking. Without them, it will at best open to the same chapter.

Yes, I have. Annotations and highlights are working. TOC is also picked up, even so I use epub 3.0 without ncx fallback file. So ids are there and should be ok.
By the way, last week, I found something interesting about non-showing highlights and annotations in kepub files. Actually I used kepub.epub, but I guess the results might hold for original kepubs too. I will post some information during today.

Edit: Here you go.

[Terisa de morgan]

David, thanks a lot for the tip about the cover. As I edit myself all my ebooks, I don't need to change it in calibre, I can do it before. And I WANT number of pages by chapter, so all my books go to kepub from now on.