Are all ereaders as buggy as Kobo Touch/Glo? - Page 2

samhy · 01-11-2013, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by stewacide

My Touch was unstable on every 2.x firmware including 2.3.x.

It is the previous generation Touch, no the one released last fall, isn't it? It seems it has been upgraded in some ways. Not quite sure, though.

Mrs_Often · 01-11-2013, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by jusmee

I am hoping Kindle isn't the stand-out in the pack in a way. It's lack of support for Adobe DRM and epubs generally (as I understand it) is a BIG drawback, and why I never bought a Kindle way back when e-ink screens first appeared.

Well, of course it's a lot easier to make a bug free device if you only have to focus on one or two (mobi, pdf) ebook formats... And don't forget the troubles with the lighting on the Paperwhite.

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Originally Posted by samhy

It is the previous generation Touch, no the one released last fall, isn't it? It seems it has been upgraded in some ways. Not quite sure, though.

Yes, they have been upgraded in some way. The new Touches also use the Glo firmware instead of the Touch firmware.

treadlightly · 01-11-2013, 08:22 AM

My Kindle Keyboard used to reboot itself once a week in the winter. My guess as to the cause was that it was susceptible to static shocks. I bought a Sony T1 as a replacement which rebooted even more frequently. The T1 frustrated me due to its lack of customization over the text display (margins/justification, etc) so I gave it to my father and bought a Nook ST, which never has given me an issue. I bought a Glo for the light and like it, but would not describe it as stable as the Nook. So for rating the stability of the devices I have used based on frequency of spontaneous rebooting, I would order them as such: Nook ST > Kobo Glo > Kindle Keyboard > Sony T1.

Lyn2012 · 01-11-2013, 09:12 AM

My Sony 650 never rebooted itself in the 2 years I had it. My next reader, Kobo Touch, rebooted itself regularly, roughly every 2-3 days. I have had my current Paperwhite for 5 weeks now and it hasn't rebooted itself at all. The Sony and Kobo were out of the box while my PW is jailbroken. The Sony appeared more stable, but with no font, line spacing or margin options which made for a less enjoyable reading experience.

frankenhooker · 01-11-2013, 09:33 AM

Every device has a percentage of units that are buggy. My Kobo touch has been brilliant, very reliable, the Kindle I had prior was all over the place. My sister has had trouble with her Nook.

joiwind · 01-11-2013, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by frankenhooker

Every device has a percentage of units that are buggy...

Quite agree - I have a Glo since a little over a month (not long for sure, but...) and I have had NO (zero) problems at all with it, albeit with 2.1.5 firmware. OK the navigation is a bit weird but that will no doubt be fixed.

llcj · 01-11-2013, 12:48 PM

I have to say that I've had my Touch for a little less than a year and I haven't had any problems with it. It is on 2.1.5 and it's fine - no stalling, freezing, reboots, double page turns or anything like that. My Mini seems fine as well however I haven't used it that much yet. I think sometimes I sound like a Kobo shill when I talk about it to friends and family. I'll add that I'm not a very demanding user - I have some epubs, mostly kepubs and just read recreationally. If I used it for editing and needed annotations, highlighting etc., I wouldn't be as happy.

I'd be pretty unhappy if my Touch didn't work well for me as I prefer its UI to that of the Kindle and Sony.

EldRick · 01-11-2013, 01:19 PM

In a word, No.

elemenoP · 01-11-2013, 01:46 PM

My Sony 650 has never rebooted itself, and I can't remember any bugs in it. Once in a while, some epub that I created myself didn't load right. I don't think it's ever had a firmware update. There are some steps I have to take on the computer in Calibre, before loading the book (to get the fonts to look better, etc), that I would rather do on the reader. So, the firmware is simpler but bug-free.

eP

Blue2u · 01-11-2013, 04:12 PM

I gave up on my Kobo Touch a few months ago, bought the Sony PRST1 and never once regretted it. My T1 has only ever had 2 small glitches where it needed rebooting and that was it. I absolutely love it and would be hard-pressed to consider a Kobo of any kind again. Good luck with whatever you decide to do.

jusmee · 01-11-2013, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by treadlightly

I would order them as such: Nook ST > Kobo Glo > Kindle Keyboard > Sony T1.

Thanks, I was wondering how the nook fitted in.

jusmee · 01-11-2013, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Lyn2012

but with no font, line spacing or margin options which made for a less enjoyable reading experience.

That's been mentioned a couple of times now. Is it still the case that Sony lacks these abilities?

jusmee · 01-11-2013, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by frankenhooker

Every device has a percentage of units that are buggy. My Kobo touch has been brilliant, very reliable, the Kindle I had prior was all over the place. My sister has had trouble with her Nook.

Sounds odd. I would expect that, if there are bugs in the programming, generally they would be apparent on most of the devices. This sounds like poor hardware design vs firmware version control - something I have a feeling Kobo suffers from.

jusmee · 01-11-2013, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by EldRick

In a word, No.

Nice and succinct

jusmee · 01-11-2013, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by elemenoP

My Sony 650 has never rebooted itself, and I can't remember any bugs in it. Once in a while, some epub that I created myself didn't load right.

Did it ever lock up because of the epub - like Kobo does on the % processing screen just after you add new files?

01-11-2013, 12:48 PM	#22
llcj Addict Posts: 250 Karma: 883854 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Canada Device: kobo touch	I have to say that I've had my Touch for a little less than a year and I haven't had any problems with it. It is on 2.1.5 and it's fine - no stalling, freezing, reboots, double page turns or anything like that. My Mini seems fine as well however I haven't used it that much yet. I think sometimes I sound like a Kobo shill when I talk about it to friends and family. I'll add that I'm not a very demanding user - I have some epubs, mostly kepubs and just read recreationally. If I used it for editing and needed annotations, highlighting etc., I wouldn't be as happy. I'd be pretty unhappy if my Touch didn't work well for me as I prefer its UI to that of the Kindle and Sony. Last edited by llcj; 01-11-2013 at 02:30 PM.

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01-11-2013, 08:22 AM	#18
treadlightly Wizard Posts: 1,370 Karma: 6957792 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Ottawa, ON Device: Kobo H2O	My Kindle Keyboard used to reboot itself once a week in the winter. My guess as to the cause was that it was susceptible to static shocks. I bought a Sony T1 as a replacement which rebooted even more frequently. The T1 frustrated me due to its lack of customization over the text display (margins/justification, etc) so I gave it to my father and bought a Nook ST, which never has given me an issue. I bought a Glo for the light and like it, but would not describe it as stable as the Nook. So for rating the stability of the devices I have used based on frequency of spontaneous rebooting, I would order them as such: Nook ST > Kobo Glo > Kindle Keyboard > Sony T1.

01-11-2013, 09:12 AM	#19
Lyn2012 Addict Posts: 382 Karma: 1118562 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Middlesex, UK Device: Kobo Aura One, iPhone 8, iPad Pro	My Sony 650 never rebooted itself in the 2 years I had it. My next reader, Kobo Touch, rebooted itself regularly, roughly every 2-3 days. I have had my current Paperwhite for 5 weeks now and it hasn't rebooted itself at all. The Sony and Kobo were out of the box while my PW is jailbroken. The Sony appeared more stable, but with no font, line spacing or margin options which made for a less enjoyable reading experience.

01-11-2013, 09:33 AM	#20
frankenhooker Member Posts: 12 Karma: 4452 Join Date: Jan 2013 Device: kobo touch	Every device has a percentage of units that are buggy. My Kobo touch has been brilliant, very reliable, the Kindle I had prior was all over the place. My sister has had trouble with her Nook.

01-11-2013, 01:19 PM	#23
EldRick Evangelist Posts: 470 Karma: 112801 Join Date: Aug 2010 Device: Aura H2O (i86, M96C, Mini&Glo, PRS-950, STR, K-Touch, K-DX, K-3)	In a word, No.

01-11-2013, 01:46 PM	#24
elemenoP Wizard Posts: 1,717 Karma: 3790058 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: NYC Device: Kindle Paperwhite, Sony 650	My Sony 650 has never rebooted itself, and I can't remember any bugs in it. Once in a while, some epub that I created myself didn't load right. I don't think it's ever had a firmware update. There are some steps I have to take on the computer in Calibre, before loading the book (to get the fonts to look better, etc), that I would rather do on the reader. So, the firmware is simpler but bug-free. eP

01-11-2013, 04:12 PM	#25
Blue2u Wizard Posts: 1,974 Karma: 5879093 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: CA Device: Kindle Paperwhite	I gave up on my Kobo Touch a few months ago, bought the Sony PRST1 and never once regretted it. My T1 has only ever had 2 small glitches where it needed rebooting and that was it. I absolutely love it and would be hard-pressed to consider a Kobo of any kind again. Good luck with whatever you decide to do.