Really Jack(ed) about Reacher!! - Page 5

Andrew H. · 12-18-2012, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

I honestly don't see that the actor's physical appearance is of the slightest relevance. The movie is not intended to be a precise reproduction of the books, and very few of the people who see it will ever have read the books.

I think that's probably right. There are a lot of ways to convey a sense of menace in a film other than the character's size.

Also - Lady Macbeth and Juliet: originally played by men!

ApK · 12-18-2012, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew H.

Also - Lady Macbeth and Juliet: originally played by men!

Presumably by smallish, unbearded men, wearing women's wigs and costumes, because they had to by law, not because it was a great casting choice.

Pookeysgirl · 12-18-2012, 12:08 PM

Another actor I wouldn't mind seeing would be Alexander Skarsgard, but he might be too thin. The right height though: 6' 4"...he would make a great Harry Dresden.

HarryT · 12-18-2012, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ApK

Presumably by smallish, unbearded men, wearing women's wigs and costumes, because they had to by law, not because it was a great casting choice.

Women's parts were played by young teenage boys in the Elizabethan theatre. I don't know if there was actually a law against women acting, but it was certainly never, ever done.

ApK · 12-18-2012, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

Women's parts were played by young teenage boys in the Elizabethan theatre. I don't know if there was actually a law against women acting, but it was certainly never, ever done.

To the best of my knowledge, and as supported by some quick googling, women were prohibited from acting on stage by law.

http://www.globe-theatre.org.uk/glob...male-roles.htm
http://www.shakespeare-online.com/faq/womenonstage.html

HarryT · 12-18-2012, 01:46 PM

Thanks - I didn't know that

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Penforhire · 12-18-2012, 01:59 PM

Harry and Andrew, if you've read the books then you know the plots make frequent use of Reacher's size and unusual speed (for his size). I don't see how you can substitute menace for size without rewriting the stories. Reacher is not a small menacing maniac. He is a cold calculating man-mountain, or at least that is what Lee Child wrote.

afv011 · 12-18-2012, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Penforhire

Harry and Andrew, if you've read the books then you know the plots make frequent use of Reacher's size and unusual speed (for his size). I don't see how you can substitute menace for size without rewriting the stories. Reacher is not a small menacing maniac. He is a cold calculating man-mountain, or at least that is what Lee Child wrote.

I wholeheartedly agree, Reacher's size is intrinsic to the plot, not just a minor detail.

hrosvit · 12-18-2012, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by afv011

I wholeheartedly agree, Reacher's size is intrinsic to the plot, not just a minor detail.

+1 more. In the majority of cases, I feel the physical description of the main character is generally irrelevant. Black, white, tall, short, whatever; most characters can survive physical alteration.

But Child writes Reacher's physical stature into every plot, and talks about it repeatedly. It's nearly as important as his personality and background.

Apache · 12-18-2012, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

Women's parts were played by young teenage boys in the Elizabethan theatre. I don't know if there was actually a law against women acting, but it was certainly never, ever done.

Japanese Kabuki Theater was another that men originally played all parts.
Apache

DianNC · 12-18-2012, 06:52 PM

Tom's the little one on the end...

Kumabjorn · 12-18-2012, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Apache

Japanese Kabuki Theater was another that men originally played all parts.
Apache

Actually the other way around. All parts were played by women, it was changed by the Tokugawa Shogunate after some riots that caused the stage lights to ignite theaters.

Apache · 12-18-2012, 08:37 PM

Oops. You are correct it was changed by the Tokugawas.

Apache

Kumabjorn · 12-19-2012, 04:07 AM

A common mistake since all roles have been played by men for 300 years. Kabuki was "invented", perhaps developed is more fitting, by a woman called Izumo no Okuni (probably the domain she came from, rather than her actual name) and men in the audience, induced by local sake, would often get rowdy beyond reason.

Apache · 12-19-2012, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Kumabjorn

A common mistake since all roles have been played by men for 300 years. Kabuki was "invented", perhaps developed is more fitting, by a woman called Izumo no Okuni (probably the domain she came from, rather than her actual name) and men in the audience, induced by local sake, would often get rowdy beyond reason.

Men getting rowdy from Sake?

Apache

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Penforhire Wizard Posts: 2,230 Karma: 7145404 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southern California Device: Kindle Voyage & iPhone 7+	Harry and Andrew, if you've read the books then you know the plots make frequent use of Reacher's size and unusual speed (for his size). I don't see how you can substitute menace for size without rewriting the stories. Reacher is not a small menacing maniac. He is a cold calculating man-mountain, or at least that is what Lee Child wrote.

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Kumabjorn Basculocolpic Posts: 4,356 Karma: 20181319 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Sweden Device: Kindle 3 WiFi, Kindle 4SO, Kindle for Android, Sony PRS-350 and PRS-T1	A common mistake since all roles have been played by men for 300 years. Kabuki was "invented", perhaps developed is more fitting, by a woman called Izumo no Okuni (probably the domain she came from, rather than her actual name) and men in the audience, induced by local sake, would often get rowdy beyond reason.