Paperwhite memory woes

Stingo · 12-16-2012, 07:22 PM

When I first heard about the lower memory on the PW I was unhappy but I figured that it was the sacrifice that I had to make for the lit screen. Now, for the second time, I have to remove books from the reader in order to fit an upgrade. This is really annoying. I don't want the amazon cloud. I want local storage and will not last past the first generation of this device if they don't offer a higher capacity reader.

xendula · 12-16-2012, 08:24 PM

How many books do you have on it? I just loaded 299 classical books on my old K4NT (will be given to my aunt as a present) which has the same 2GB as the PW, and it is still not full!

barth90 · 12-16-2012, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Stingo

When I first heard about the lower memory on the PW I was unhappy but I figured that it was the sacrifice that I had to make for the lit screen. Now, for the second time, I have to remove books from the reader in order to fit an upgrade. This is really annoying. I don't want the amazon cloud. I want local storage and will not last past the first generation of this device if they don't offer a higher capacity reader.

Wow, how many books do you have on it???
I've never ever had that problem. To me the memory capacity is totally a non-issue. I was always able to manage my collection. I was never a proponent of keeping hundreds of books on my Kindle.

Stingo · 12-16-2012, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by xendula

How many books do you have on it? I just loaded 299 classical books on my old K4NT (will be given to my aunt as a present) which has the same 2GB as the PW, and it is still not full!

Probably about 180. The PW has half as much memory as the T and NT.

VaultBoy · 12-17-2012, 12:53 AM

Are the books really large in size, or something?

HarryT · 12-17-2012, 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Stingo

Probably about 180. The PW has half as much memory as the T and NT.

They must be jolly big books. I currently have 457 books on my PW (many of them pretty big omnibus editions) and have 799MB free.

Robmonster · 12-17-2012, 04:52 AM

If you use it for PDF viewing then that can eat the space up pretty quickly.

R

Stingo · 12-17-2012, 04:37 PM

I just checked. I have 553 items and 167mb free. No PDFs. I just like to carry lots of books. The old memory size seemed to work better for me although a memory card slot would be fantastic.

BiliBug · 12-17-2012, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Stingo

I just checked. I have 553 items and 167mb free. No PDFs. I just like to carry lots of books. The old memory size seemed to work better for me although a memory card slot would be fantastic.

I have over 1300 books on my PW, albeit, some are novellas or short stories. I have about 100MB free.

xendula · 12-17-2012, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Stingo

Probably about 180. The PW has half as much memory as the T and NT.

Not true, the K4NT and the PW both have 2 GB of memory. That's HUGE -again, I loaded 299 books on one and still have space. What are your 533 items? Not just books?

tomsem · 12-17-2012, 07:31 PM

are any of these comic books/manga etc? those can chew up space fast.

And you start with about 1.2 GB, not 2 GB. Kindle Touch starts out with about 3.3GB (if I remember), so more than twice as much, almost 3x more.

vxf · 12-17-2012, 09:06 PM

My PW does not delete past issues of subscriptions (some bug, I guess... Amazon CS can't figure it out) and I am too lazy to do it manually.
So I have about 2.5 months of WSJ, FT, Economist, Foreign Policy on it. Add some gamebooks (Lone Wolf and Final Fantasy) and about 30 books - and I am out of memory as well.
Annoying, I'd say, especially as it is due to a bug - the autoarchiving of periodicals not working.

sirmaru · 12-18-2012, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Stingo

I just checked. I have 553 items and 167mb free. No PDFs. I just like to carry lots of books. The old memory size seemed to work better for me although a memory card slot would be fantastic.

I have 34 items on my PW with 1.2 Gb free. Why do you need 553 items loaded on the device? There is no way you can read that many simultaneously.

My 34 items include 4 dictionaries (I use 2 at once), 3 personal documents, 6 Bible Study items and 21 eBooks (I read 2 simultaneously). I leave the rest on to browse highlights I made in them.

Even if you have magazines and newspapers on, you should delete old issues when done.

I store all my eBooks and apps on my KFHD7-32 where I have 21 Gb still available for extra storage. The PW can never match the KFHD7-32 in storage space since it starts out with 27 Gb available.

xendula · 12-18-2012, 12:24 PM

^ The OP states that he prefers on-device storage over cloud storage.

fauxpas · 12-18-2012, 01:35 PM

It's fair to prefer it that way, but I assume that for the vast majority of users, 2GB + Cloud will be enough.

I have a similar problem with tablets/phones which have limited memory capability and no external storage such as SD cards as I would prefer always having my whole music collection with me. It's something that I'll have to live with if I ever have to get such a device (still using my HTC Desire with an SD Card and don't own a tablet).

Personally, I've got my whole ebook library (which is at about 180 books or something) sitting in my Dropbox in addition to it being on the kindle. That way, I have access to it pretty much wherever I have a PC with an Internet connection, preferably with Calibre (and it's also a great way to have your library in sync without ever worrying about it if you use machines in different locations).

12-16-2012, 07:22 PM	#1
Stingo Fanatic Posts: 581 Karma: 1334691 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Miami Device: KH2O, KPW2, KDXG, KPW1, K3, S505	Paperwhite memory woes When I first heard about the lower memory on the PW I was unhappy but I figured that it was the sacrifice that I had to make for the lit screen. Now, for the second time, I have to remove books from the reader in order to fit an upgrade. This is really annoying. I don't want the amazon cloud. I want local storage and will not last past the first generation of this device if they don't offer a higher capacity reader.

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12-16-2012, 08:24 PM	#2
xendula eBookworm Posts: 2,300 Karma: 4525746 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: East Coast brrrrr Device: Kindle 4B/K ~ Nexus 7 ~ Kindle Paperwhite 1&2 ~ iPad Air	How many books do you have on it? I just loaded 299 classical books on my old K4NT (will be given to my aunt as a present) which has the same 2GB as the PW, and it is still not full!

12-17-2012, 12:53 AM	#5
VaultBoy Addict Posts: 206 Karma: 1683142 Join Date: Nov 2012 Device: Kindle of many shapes, PIPBoy 3000	Are the books really large in size, or something?

12-17-2012, 04:52 AM	#7
Robmonster Wizard! Posts: 250 Karma: 548228 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: UK Device: Paperwhite, Voyage + Oasis2	If you use it for PDF viewing then that can eat the space up pretty quickly. R

12-17-2012, 04:37 PM	#8
Stingo Fanatic Posts: 581 Karma: 1334691 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Miami Device: KH2O, KPW2, KDXG, KPW1, K3, S505	I just checked. I have 553 items and 167mb free. No PDFs. I just like to carry lots of books. The old memory size seemed to work better for me although a memory card slot would be fantastic.

12-17-2012, 07:31 PM	#11
tomsem Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,908 Karma: 27013865 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: USA Device: iPhone 15PM, Kindle Scribe, iPad mini 6, PocketBook InkPad Color 3	are any of these comic books/manga etc? those can chew up space fast. And you start with about 1.2 GB, not 2 GB. Kindle Touch starts out with about 3.3GB (if I remember), so more than twice as much, almost 3x more.

12-17-2012, 09:06 PM	#12
vxf Guru Posts: 944 Karma: 1490348 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Norman, OK Device: Sony PRS 350, 900, 950; Kindles (ALL of them!); Kobo Aura One	My PW does not delete past issues of subscriptions (some bug, I guess... Amazon CS can't figure it out) and I am too lazy to do it manually. So I have about 2.5 months of WSJ, FT, Economist, Foreign Policy on it. Add some gamebooks (Lone Wolf and Final Fantasy) and about 30 books - and I am out of memory as well. Annoying, I'd say, especially as it is due to a bug - the autoarchiving of periodicals not working.

12-18-2012, 12:24 PM	#14
xendula eBookworm Posts: 2,300 Karma: 4525746 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: East Coast brrrrr Device: Kindle 4B/K ~ Nexus 7 ~ Kindle Paperwhite 1&2 ~ iPad Air	^ The OP states that he prefers on-device storage over cloud storage.

12-18-2012, 01:35 PM	#15
fauxpas Connoisseur Posts: 51 Karma: 492892 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Germany Device: Kindle PW	It's fair to prefer it that way, but I assume that for the vast majority of users, 2GB + Cloud will be enough. I have a similar problem with tablets/phones which have limited memory capability and no external storage such as SD cards as I would prefer always having my whole music collection with me. It's something that I'll have to live with if I ever have to get such a device (still using my HTC Desire with an SD Card and don't own a tablet). Personally, I've got my whole ebook library (which is at about 180 books or something) sitting in my Dropbox in addition to it being on the kindle. That way, I have access to it pretty much wherever I have a PC with an Internet connection, preferably with Calibre (and it's also a great way to have your library in sync without ever worrying about it if you use machines in different locations).