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Old 11-27-2012, 08:57 PM   #196
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That's a very US-centric view of the world. And I'd suggest you freshen up on forum policy regarding attachments.
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They sure have their hands stuck in your pocket -- and why does that make you so proud?
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That's a very US-centric view of the world. And I'd suggest you freshen up on forum policy regarding attachments.
Those revenue numbers are for the US only? What a revelation, you should share your findings with the Financial Times.

Thank you for offering pedantry about forum etiquette in place of a rebuttal. The images have been resized.
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They sure have their hands stuck in your pocket -- and why does that make you so proud?
Google makes more than twice as much money from me as Apple does every year. And the iPhone offers incalculably more value than a cheap Korean knock-off.

It's not about pride, it's about killing the stupid meme that Apple is dying, Android is winning, yadda yadda.
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Old 11-27-2012, 09:44 PM   #202
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Those revenue numbers are for the US only? What a revelation, you should share your findings with the Financial Times.

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Your chart is US only.
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One missing context here, in terms of a lot of our discussions, is where book publishers fit. Hint: Way off the bottom end of the Profits in Context chart.
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Your chart is US only.
And it clearly says so... if it offends you so much then post the equivalent world -based info but Holymadness never claimed it was not US-based, he simply posted it as an example of revenues earned by various companies...
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And it clearly says so... if it offends you so much then post the equivalent world -based info but Holymadness never claimed it was not US-based, he simply posted it as an example of revenues earned by various companies...
I'm not offended in the slightest, but his post is misleading because the revenue is global but the chart is US only. Given that there is no comment, just an attachment, I believe it bears clarification. At least that's my understanding of the attachment.
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Your chart is US only.
A quick search shows that the Apple earnings were world-wide.

The mentioned companies are multinational. Acer and Asus are commonly described as Taiwanese multinationals. Leveno is commonly described as a Chinese multi-national. Steve Ballmer once said that Microsoft was as much Israeli as American, although I think that was an exaggeration.

EDITED: I may have been missing the point. Was the point just in reference to the second chart, showing that in one mid-North American country, more Apple than Android smartphones are now sold, which only goes to show that Apple does unusually well in said nation of spendthrifts.
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I'm not offended in the slightest, but his post is misleading because the revenue is global but the chart is US only. Given that there is no comment, just an attachment, I believe it bears clarification. At least that's my understanding of the attachment.
You thought that a chart labeled "US smartphone OS sales" needed to be clarified by pointing out it represents US statistics?

Clarified for who, illiterates?
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You thought that a chart labeled "US smartphone OS sales" needed to be clarified by pointing out it represents US statistics?

Clarified for who, illiterates?
Well, you are playing mix-and-match with worldwide data and US-only data.
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Well, you are playing mix-and-match with worldwide data and US-only data.
No, I pointed out two different data sets. That was evidently quite clear to everyone who read the post.
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You thought that a chart labeled "US smartphone OS sales" needed to be clarified by pointing out it represents US statistics?

Clarified for who, illiterates?
I think the point is that these forums are international in nature, so the enthusiasm may be a bit misleading.
 
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