How to skip foot notes: normal flow

theducks · 11-25-2012, 02:43 PM

If I place footnotes at the end of a (chapter) section. is there a way to skip over them if a Link was not used to access them?

Text
footnote
Next section text

If I scroll though, between the (Black) text, that is all I see. (No footnotes)
I still want to be able to Jump to a footnote (and back

)

DSpider · 11-25-2012, 04:25 PM

I think you can place all the footnotes at the end, in the final XHTML file from the ePub. This would essentially make them endnotes (because they're not at the foot of the page).

DiapDealer · 11-25-2012, 05:53 PM

Other than a "page-break-before: always" CSS setting and a link offered to the reader allowing them to voluntarily "jump" past the notes to the beginning of the next section, I don't think there's a way to achieve exactly what you're looking for.

You could put the notes in their own files between chapters/sections and use the "linear=no" attribute in the spine of the OPF for those files ... but there's no guarantee that the reading system will honor the attribute.

theducks · 11-25-2012, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DiapDealer

y to achieve exactly what you're looking for.

You could put the notes in their own files between chapters/sections and use the "linear=no" attribute in the spine of the OPF for those files ... but there's no guarantee that the reading system will honor the attribute.

I was thinking this was a possibility, but I really wanted to avoid (re)loading the file (performance reasons). Recent footnote threads got me thinking (and you probably guessed how dangerous that is

)

Thanks to both of you for your answers.

JSWolf · 11-26-2012, 10:10 AM

The only way to skip the footnotes at the end of a chapter is to have a link on the last page of the chapter that then skips over the footnotes.

Jellby · 11-26-2012, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by theducks

If I place footnotes at the end of a (chapter) section. is there a way to skip over them if a Link was not used to access them?

Not without scripting or maybe some imaginative CSS3/HTML5 stuff, which means it's not supported in ePub 2.1 (I would be delighted to be proven wrong, tohugh).

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Originally Posted by DiapDealer

You could put the notes in their own files between chapters/sections and use the "linear=no" attribute in the spine of the OPF for those files ... but there's no guarantee that the reading system will honor the attribute.

You can be pretty sure it will not honor it, actually (but the Calibre viewer does, I believe).

DiapDealer · 11-26-2012, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jellby

You can be pretty sure it will not honor it, actually (but the Calibre viewer does, I believe).

Yeah, I knew devices/apps that honored it were rare. I just didn't realize how rare.

Jellby · 11-27-2012, 12:00 PM

To be fair, I think the spec says that reading systems may skip linear=no files, so readers that do not skip them are not doing anything against the spec.

11-25-2012, 02:43 PM	#1
theducks Well trained by Cats Posts: 31,267 Karma: 61916422 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Central Coast of California Device: Kobo Libra2,Kobo Aura2v1, K4NT(Fixed: New Bat.), Galaxy Tab A	How to skip foot notes: normal flow If I place footnotes at the end of a (chapter) section. is there a way to skip over them if a Link was not used to access them? Text footnote Next section text If I scroll though, between the (Black) text, that is all I see. (No footnotes) I still want to be able to Jump to a footnote (and back )

11-25-2012, 05:53 PM	#3
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 28,892 Karma: 207182180 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	Other than a "page-break-before: always" CSS setting and a link offered to the reader allowing them to voluntarily "jump" past the notes to the beginning of the next section, I don't think there's a way to achieve exactly what you're looking for. You could put the notes in their own files between chapters/sections and use the "linear=no" attribute in the spine of the OPF for those files ... but there's no guarantee that the reading system will honor the attribute. Last edited by DiapDealer; 11-25-2012 at 05:58 PM.

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DSpider Evangelist Posts: 450 Karma: 343115 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Romania Device: PW2 2014	I think you can place all the footnotes at the end, in the final XHTML file from the ePub. This would essentially make them endnotes (because they're not at the foot of the page).

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Jellby frumious Bandersnatch Posts: 7,570 Karma: 20150435 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Spaniard in Sweden Device: Cybook Orizon, Kobo Aura	To be fair, I think the spec says that reading systems may skip linear=no files, so readers that do not skip them are not doing anything against the spec.