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In the July-September period, Apple shipped 14 million devices, up 26 per cent from 11 million a year ago. Its market share fell from 60 per cent in the third quarter of 2011 as the overall tablet market grew by 50 per cent to nearly 28 million. Samsung's market share grew to 18 per cent, from about 7 per cent, as it more than quadrupled the number of tablets shipped to 5.1 million. Source: http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/st...ket-share.html According to the IDC, Apple has 50.4 percent of the tablet market, down from 65.5 percent in previous quarter. Samsung, Amazon, Asus, and Lenovo, all took share from Apple during the quarter. While market share may not be the end all and be all of business, loss of market share hurts any company. Last edited by obsessed2; 11-20-2012 at 08:51 AM. |
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All that says is that the market has grown... so Apple's share is 15% down but their actual (extremely profitable) unit sales were up 26%... market share loss/gain is only of major significance when the market is static... and it isn't yet!
Any company would be happy to increase their profitable sales by 26% and Samsung are not as financially wonderful as implied, take a look at their financials if you're really interested (they're online) and bear in mind that electronics is also only a small part of the company... I'm not prejudiced in any particular direction unlike some on these boards... I have a Samsung Galaxy IIS smartphone, an iPad 4, an Android tablet, an iMac and a Fujitsu-Siemans laptop amongst other things... I like and use them all but the Android tablet and laptop are starting to lose ground now I have the iPad because it does so much of what I want without problems or wasted time... |
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11-20-2012, 02:59 PM | #36 | |
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11-20-2012, 05:00 PM | #38 | |
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(That's what you're hinting at, right?) His background is as a supply chain guy and so far Apple's 2012 products look to be supply chain products (defined more by the components the supply chain can and can't deliver; i.e., screens and processors) instead of software-and-design products (defined by their software capabilities or design innovation) but that doesn't mean that all future products will be that way. After all, when Cook took over the word was that Apple had a five year Jobsian plan laid out to ease the transition. It's only been one year so we're likely still looking at "legacy" products where Jobs had input into the design. Depending on how well Jobs' vision aligns to market developments and how committed Cook/Ives/et al are to sticking to the plan they might still be rolling out Jobsian products well into '14 or ditching it and crafting their own direction sometime next summer. Either way, I'd say we need to wait for a minimum of two full Fiscal Years under (only) Cook to tell whether he can keep Apple on top and how he is doing it. Say fall of '13. I will say '12 has not been the best of (recent) years for Apple's image but their financials aren't hurting. Yet. Last edited by fjtorres; 11-20-2012 at 05:03 PM. |
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I prefer the flexibility of being able to build my own computer to fit my needs having the ability to upgrade it without buying a completely new computer. And like it or not, if Apple had to rely only on it's computer business it would be struggling and or out of business. My point is that they look to be using the same business model with their current business model and if so they may find Google and others may capture the majority of the market share. I am talking survivability here not the merits of one company's hardware over another.
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But I don't think that Apple's survivability is at stake anytime soon; with $100 billion-plus in cash reserves Apple could survive outright losses for a decade and still endure, ala Sony, stumbling from one disaster to another without any real risk to their existence. That is one R-I-C-H company. What is at risk, though, is Apple's dominance of the consumer gadget space. For the last decade, they have been the thousand pound gorilla of the electronics industry and their design language and product definitions have been the model for most of the me-too asian vendors. They have successfully identified and exploited the most profitable niches and steamrollered even the best designed competitor products that didn't follow their lead. That won't last. It never does. And at some point their declining share of a growing market will become a declining share of a mature market and if they haven't identified new growth opportunities by then, their *relevance* will be at risk. But not their survivability. Not with their bank account. That will take a decade of screwups and rudderless management. Again: look at Sony, they're still crawling... |
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I have never bought an Apple product, although have used a few due to companies I've worked for doling them out to employees. They seem functional enough I guess.
However no external storage, the Apple walled garden is a big turn off for me. After saying that, I hope Apple survives and people do continue to buy their products. Competition is important for the consumer. I appreciate why some people like Apple products, they generally "just work" and are non technical. |
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Personally I love PCs... they cause people to give me money far better than Apple products... As for upgrades, I prefer having a computer that doesn't need upgrades every five minutes to function properly... I still use a 2nd generation Intel iMac comfortably and it even happily runs Windows 7 - haven't tried with Win 8 yet but I may do so... and I regularly upgrade the hard disks I use for it and find no problems with my current 8TB of storage. As for computer business struggling - why is Apple's tablet not computing but everyone else's is?? My newly acquired iPad 4 sure computes for me... as does its 500GB external drive, a beautiful Lithium polymer powered 2.5" hard drive running over Airtime... |
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Apple does not compete in the low end market and the high end market wont have much growth compared to mid level and low level market. Most people from Asian countries where the future growth is cant afford $800-1000 dollar phones which is for most a few months income.
Now many of you are right in saying that apple does not care as its not selling to them anyway but the thing is once their are no new smartphone apple buyers it will start competing for customers with others and that is the time when it would start having problems. Google is planning on a getting into the wireless telecom market I would bet you they would start with something like half the price of current telco contracts and to compete and not loose customers the big 4 american telcos would have to bring down their overpriced plans wont be able to subsidise the Iphone by the amounts they do today will be unwilling to pay apple high prices so apple will loose its high margins. I expect apple stock to either split or reach over $1000-$1200 a pop over the next 3-4 years but after that it is going to plummet. I am predicting all this without considering any new inventions that come up in the next few years but truthfully I don't think smartphones will be the thing in 4 years time. In 4 years when the rest of the world has reached saturation in the smartphone market something like google glasses will be more the in thing with voice and gestures instead of touch screens. Another problem Apple will face in the future is big data where google is miles ahead of anyone but is still improving faster than the rest so in the future when ui and interfaces are not important but the information is Apple wont be able to make the amount of money it is making as the device you would be using wont be as important as the data. |
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