11-19-2012, 07:29 AM | #16 |
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Just a side note, the group that wrote that particular survey has little respect for international treaties or the UN. The Berne Convention was probably the exact last thing on their mind.
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11-19-2012, 09:47 AM | #17 |
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I'm sure that Disney would soon point out the error of their ways to them . In this particular case, the US economy massively benefits from the treaty.
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11-19-2012, 09:59 AM | #18 | |
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And in any event, the paper at least has the effect of dispelling some common copyright myths and demonstrating that there is some level of understanding that all is not well with copyright legislation. Does the U.S. benefit or do certain large players benefit disproportionally, to the overall detriment of the U.S. public? And even if the U.S. is benefiting from an inefficient system, think how much more it could be benefiting from a rational one. Last edited by Ninjalawyer; 11-19-2012 at 10:01 AM. |
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Why do you believe that the goals of the Berne Convention are not rational?
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11-19-2012, 10:12 AM | #20 | |
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The sub-committee that issued the report that is the topic of this thread recommended that copyright terms and renewals be limited to avoid negative externalities. If limiting copyright terms is rational, and the Berne Convention would prevent limiting copyright terms because it was negotiated in a different era, then the Berne Convention is irrational. |
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11-19-2012, 01:29 PM | #22 | |
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Even if a retracted report isn't going to change anything, it's still marginally encouraging that parts of the U.S. government are alive to the issue. Frankly, I find it encouraging when anything copyright related comes out of the U.S. government that has involved critical analysis rather than RIAA talking points. It's just too bad the Republican party was to weak willed to stand behind their own research for more than a day. |
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Ntpicking-the paper used the wrong "there" in #3, False Copyright Claims. I'm sorry, but stuff like that makes me wonder about the intellect of the author. But I guess this is Congress, so my expectations shouldn't be very high. After all, they diagnosed Terry Shivo by video coference!
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Whoops, Mr Teller didn't quite get that right. Let me see if I can correct it.
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11-19-2012, 05:40 PM | #27 | |
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The internet has made it far easier to access copyrighted materials, but also far easier to create them (e.g. ePubs and the rise of self-publishing as a legitimate way to get your book into the market). If the goal of copyright is to encourage the production of copyrightable materials, then it should reflect the actual needs of authors and other creative individuals for a limited distribution monopoly; if technology has made it less necessary to give someone a multi-decade monopoly (i.e. the copyright term) to get them to produce a work in the first place, then laws and treaties should be revisited to make sure they're not giving out excessive monopoly periods and creating a drag on innovation when the goal is to encourage innovation. The Berne Convention never contemplated the disruptions caused by the internet or the economic realities that resulted therefrom, and should be revisited to make sure it's not causing a drag on innovation and hobbling innovators more than its helping. |
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11-19-2012, 07:23 PM | #28 | |
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Actually, the length of protection in the abortive GOP plan only needs to be changed a little to be Berne-compliant for movies. Berne protects them for 50 years after first showing, just four years longer than the withdrawn plan. And Berne protects photos for just 25 years. Music, I don't know -- can anyone interpret the music language here: http://www.wipo.int/treaties/en/ip/b...ocs_wo001.html Books of course are the clearest example where the withdrawn plan massively violated Berne in terms of copyright length. I think that the biggest proposed Berne violation, and biggest departure from Republican party principles, was the proposed copyright renewal fees AKA new taxes. Or am I wrong -- does Berne allow renewal fees? The GOP is in panic over losing votes. And the GOP is hardly Hollywood-friendly. I think there a real possibility of this trial balloon coming back, but without the fees. Last edited by SteveEisenberg; 11-19-2012 at 08:25 PM. |
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More like Disney's economy benefits from the treaty.The US economy would probably benefit more from people at flea markets being able to sell compilation DVDs of old public domain Donald Duck cartoons.
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