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Old 11-18-2012, 08:36 AM   #76
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For most people illegal != immoral. I have no problem with someone doing something illegal if it's the moral thing to do.

Note that ebook piracy is not moral, but distributing a document being sensored by a government might be.
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Old 11-18-2012, 09:10 AM   #77
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Am I missing something?
I think the poster was referring to the idea of torrent files when they said they were reporting the post. Many books are illegally shared that way. Of course that's a whole other topic for discussion.
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Old 11-18-2012, 12:13 PM   #78
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I think the poster was referring to the idea of torrent files when they said they were reporting the post. Many books are illegally shared that way. Of course that's a whole other topic for discussion.
Yes thank you that is what I was trying to say. Now there is a big difference. Here on MR we are allowed to talk about removing of DRM in great detail, implications for readers, publishers, authors. The one thing, of course, we are not allowed to discuss is HOW to remove DRM - the one leeway the owner of this forum (which is also enforced by every mod on here) has given us is to refer to the correct words to put e.g. google to find all that is necessary.

Not every book that is shared (with torrents) is illegally shared, so I did not want to open that can of worms.
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Old 11-18-2012, 06:47 PM   #79
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My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought, cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives.
God darnit, Mr. Lamarr, you use your tongue prettier than a twenty dollar whore.

If only the author of the Slate article were anywhere in that league. It was like reading poorly digested and then regurgitated Marshall McLuhan. Completely useless pseudo-intellectual ranting.
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Old 11-18-2012, 06:52 PM   #80
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God darnit, Mr. Lamarr, you use your tongue prettier than a twenty dollar whore.
Thank you soooo much. I was beginning to think everyone was just going to leave me hanging on that one.
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Old 11-18-2012, 07:47 PM   #81
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One of the workmen installing a new air-conditioning system, just made a loud comment. I have no idea what it was in reference to, but it could easily apply to the author of this nonsensical article.

He said: What a Wanker!
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Old 11-18-2012, 08:20 PM   #82
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Yes thank you that is what I was trying to say. Now there is a big difference. Here on MR we are allowed to talk about removing of DRM in great detail, implications for readers, publishers, authors. The one thing, of course, we are not allowed to discuss is HOW to remove DRM - the one leeway the owner of this forum (which is also enforced by every mod on here) has given us is to refer to the correct words to put e.g. google to find all that is necessary.

Not every book that is shared (with torrents) is illegally shared, so I did not want to open that can of worms.
True. Even Project Gutenberg uses a torrent file to make it's available books more accessible to the public for example. But it's true that a good many books are shared via that route that probably shouldn't be. Even Baen's Free Library has had torrents of it's books if I recall correctly. If/when Baen decides to change their policies on free ebooks (or enforce any changes they are currently making) I imagine that will be something they have to deal with as well.
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Old 11-18-2012, 08:39 PM   #83
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For most people illegal != immoral. I have no problem with someone doing something illegal if it's the moral thing to do.

Note that ebook piracy is not moral, but distributing a document being sensored by a government might be.
Morality is a moving target and is cultural-based. In some cultures, eating your family members when they died was considered normal and the height of respect.

Avoiding illegal acts seems to be based on the penalties involved. Most drivers exceed the speed limit which is illegal and get upset when they get a photo radar ticket or get pulled over. So most people condone this illegality.
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Old 11-19-2012, 02:50 AM   #84
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A better question is if an e-book is really considered a book.
Story?
File?
Book?
Certainly no one would confuse a scroll for a book
eventhough they serve the same puropse.

"Electronic Book" is quite a boring term.
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Old 11-19-2012, 07:46 AM   #85
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A better question is if an e-book is really considered a book.
Story?
File?
Book?
Certainly no one would confuse a scroll for a book
eventhough they serve the same puropse.

"Electronic Book" is quite a boring term.
Is an MP3 considered to be a song?
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Old 11-19-2012, 09:15 AM   #86
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Old 11-19-2012, 03:16 PM   #87
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