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			Oh wow. I had 25 books or so from eReader.com (Palm and early iOS days) and had to remove the drm and covert to epub for my Nook to read them. If they can officially be part of my Nook library now with the benefit of syncing, etc. I'll be thrilled.
		 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			These days I'm never too surprised when a big company craps on the customers of a small company they bought out.
		 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			I've just received the following e-mail from FW (I'm in the UK): 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			It's been a long time since I checked my account at eReader.com. Back in the day I used to think they had the best software going.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	Anyway I had to reset my password and when I went to my bookshelf it was only showing a couple of books with a download link. Both of those links lead to a 404 page. The other books wanted me to enter up to date credit card info to re-activate the links. Which I'm not sure I want to do to recover a handful of books when the site is going out of business. Anyone actually managed to download their files?  | 
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			Hmmm. OK, I've done the B&N migration thing, set up a new account and, so far, only 6 of my FW books have appeared in it. Let's hope that more show up over time! 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			I got a similar email. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			Absolutely. I've said time and time again that your eBooks are never safe until you have them, DRM-free, on storage media that's under your control. Never assume that books will remain available at the store where you bought them.
		 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			I clicked on the transition link and it claims my email doesn't match their records. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	The same email address they sent me the fictionwise shutdown notice to which is the same email address for my (vestigial) Nook account. Ah, B&N is still B&N, even when they try to do something right. Mind you, I never bought anything from Fictionwise I couldn't de-DRM and promptly did so, but still... ![]() I'll try again later but I have no expectations of any change.  | 
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			Given that I currently have 6 books out of the 350-ish I've bought at FW, I suspect you haven't lost much  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			This sucks. Another reason to never shop at B&N. I loved buying at FW and bought tons and tons of books there. I loved their sales. Guess I will be heading over to the publisher web sites and Amazon for my (non-big-6) books.
		 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			I only have 6 or 7 books there, never bought much from them. Doubt I will even bother with the transfer, they are all MF and backed up on my PC.
		 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			"Over the past three years there has been a significant decrease in demand for many of the eBook formats that the Fictionwise Websites sell. In contrast, the eBook format supported by Barnes & Noble--ePub--is growing in popularity." 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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