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Old 10-25-2012, 10:54 AM   #121
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As the PW goes retail the forum about defects on Amazon are on fire. I soon see the ratings drop to three and below.
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Old 10-25-2012, 11:00 AM   #122
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Two things, I never claimed the "opposite was true" I just claimed an absolute statement without proof is total BS. And forum threads are not scientific proof, not even close.
Then why even discuss it? Nothing will ever meet the bar you just set with this post. There's taking issue with the absolute nature of the statement, and then there's taking issue with the idea that the statement represents, and you seem to be doing the latter while shutting down any realistic debate on the subject by demanding evidence with a vague enough bar that you may never be satisfied.

What sample size would be appropriate? 1000? 10000? 1 million? The biggest sample size we have available to our eyes is just short of a thousand and it still lends evidence to the idea that the majority are happy with their screens.

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And one more thing, since you are both acting a bit Applely, the burden of proof is not on me but on you to prove your speculative statement.
When discussing speculation and hypothesis, demanding evidence that would be able to support a theory just shuts conversation down, which I suspect is really what you want.

Here's the thing, it's completely possible to approach speculation and hypothesis rationally, and even discuss how one would go about proving or disproving the idea before solid evidence is presented. Part of getting that evidence is figuring out what to look for via hypothesis. That's part of the scientific process. You can't go from "Huh, that's interesting" to "Proof!" in one or two jumps.

The best we can really do here is ask ourselves which is more reasonable and likely. Occam's and Hanlon's razor are good tools for this to come up with the most reasonable and level-headed hypothesis.

I'm not really sure why you want to call me "Applely" as if it's some kind of stereotype. Am I defending Amazon? Really? After I said I believe they screwed up in not just one way, but two?
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Old 10-25-2012, 11:22 AM   #123
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I just picked mine up from the store and I am un-boxing it now. I live in the Louisville, KY area (if that matters) and will post how it goes once I get it turned on and test it out.

Edit: Well I loaded it up and so far I am happy with it. The 4 distinct "smudges" are at the bottom of the screen, but they don't bother me so much and I am now under the impression that is 'normal' ?

Otherwise so far so good although I am sorely tempted to pick up a Nook ST Glow now just to compare.

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Old 10-25-2012, 11:45 AM   #124
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And one more thing, since you are both acting a bit Applely.
That's a funny comment as I've just been reading a few threads that Kolenka has posted in and was thinking his/her posts appear to be quite reasoned and objective, which isn't very often the case with people and their e-readers!

Good luck with your Paperwhite MrsAmandaK.... photos if it's a good 'un!
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Old 10-25-2012, 12:11 PM   #125
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I just picked mine up from the store and I am un-boxing it now. I live in the Louisville, KY area (if that matters) and will post how it goes once I get it turned on and test it out.

Edit: Well I loaded it up and so far I am happy with it. The 4 distinct "smudges" are at the bottom of the screen, but they don't bother me so much and I am now under the impression that is 'normal' ?

Otherwise so far so good although I am sorely tempted to pick up a Nook ST Glow now just to compare.
try it in a darkened room.. like bedroom at nite.. curious..
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try it in a darkened room.. like bedroom at nite.. curious..
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OK so here we go:
This was taken in my bathroom with the door closed (No windows) and with my cell phone (dslr is dead :X). As you can see the light slightly interfere with the text, but I am not sure if this is considered 'normal' or not. BTW this was set at a lighting setting of 15.

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I thought I had a perfect one until night then its true colors shown through.
How 'bad' is yours?
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Old 10-25-2012, 12:29 PM   #129
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OK so here we go:
This was taken in my bathroom with the door closed (No windows) and with my cell phone (dslr is dead :X). As you can see the light slightly interfere with the text, but I am not sure if this is considered 'normal' or not. BTW this was set at a lighting setting of 15.
I see multiple green blotches in your photo that seem to be the norm, unfortunately.
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I see multiple green blotches in your photo that seem to be the norm, unfortunately.
The funny thing is I can't tell if they are really there or not in real life ... lol I look at them and sometimes I see it sometimes I don't.

Is it possible the cell phone caused that to show up in the picture?
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Old 10-25-2012, 12:48 PM   #131
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OK 2 more: same scenario taken at level 15 in a completely black room *door closed, no windows, toddler banging on the door *


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I still see a spot on the upper write hand corner, where the shopping cart is. It's the same spot on my Kindle.

Maybe just my eyes.......
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I still see a spot on the upper write hand corner, where the shopping cart is. It's the same spot on my Kindle.

Maybe just my eyes.......

Amazon should offer eye exams because I feel like I am second guessing my own eyes now thanks to this
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I see pink and green. The intensity varys with lighting. Yours is about what my 2nd replacement looks like much better then the other two but far from what I was expecting.
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It's ok. My husband swears he doesn't see it (on my Kindle) either.
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