Can you buy from Amazon without their software - Page 2

K. Molen · 10-18-2012, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fratermus

Some of the RAM-resident linux distros like Puppy (~110MB!) and Tiny Core (11-60MB!) store the OS and standard apps in a single, bootable .iso file. Additional software packages are kept in individual files (ie, one file per application). Changes like documents and settings live in a combined user userspace savefile if you want to save state.

Sounds pretty cool. And those additional software packages are just single files, and not just hidden file packages like in OS X? If so, very cool indeed.

Hellmark · 10-18-2012, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rogue_librarian

True, but it makes the post-buy cleanup so much easier, and doesn't affect your desktop no matter what.

instead of having Wine in a VM, why not just use separate "Wine Bottles". Wine supports having completely separate installs, so theoretically you can keep reinstalling the same app, and not have anything mingle with any of the other installs. That way, if something gets mucked up, you just trash that bottle, and move onto the next.

Quote:

Originally Posted by K. Molen

Sounds pretty cool. And those additional software packages are just single files, and not just hidden file packages like in OS X? If so, very cool indeed.

Yeah, on the LiveUSB distros, everything can be in the disk image. Basically, they originated as LiveCDs, but they took the disk image meant for being burned onto a CD, and placed it onto a USB drive, and set up the drive to be bootable, and point to the image. Computer loads it and treats it as if it was how it was originally designed for (on a CD).

DiapDealer · 10-18-2012, 12:04 PM

Even if you somehow managed to purchase an ebook from Amazon without one of their devices or apps, you'd stand zero chance of converting it to ePub (unless it was already DRM-free of course). The device/app isn't only required for purchase ... any chance at removing the drm is predicated on having either a device or app installed.

Ntsimp · 10-18-2012, 12:22 PM

I've never tried it, but I understand you can install Android on Linux. If that works, then you could install the Kindle app on the Android install.

K. Molen · 10-18-2012, 01:09 PM

It's been so long since I installed the Kindle app on my various computers that I don't remember how it works...

When does one get the Kindle ID? Or whatever Amazon is calling their version of the PID... Is it during the install process, or do you get it when you sign up at Amazon and download the app? Because if it's the latter, then all you'd have to do is not install the app and then download the e-book manually from your purchase history.

Dazrin · 10-18-2012, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hellmark

You can technically buy via the webpage, and then read using the Kindle Cloud Reader webpage. You don't really download the books, but it is better than nothing.

Cloud reader asks for permission to store data on your hard drive for offline reading, I wonder what format those files are saved in. It might be possible to take those and clean them with some Tools, similar to the K4PC.

Abtacha · 10-18-2012, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by K. Molen

It's been so long since I installed the Kindle app on my various computers that I don't remember how it works...

When does one get the Kindle ID?.

You don't. As far as I know you only get an ID when you have an actual Kindle.

fjtorres · 10-18-2012, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abtacha

You don't. As far as I know you only get an ID when you have an actual Kindle.

You only get a *visible* ID with an actual Kindle.
(Even there I'm not sure if the newer models can be made to expose it or keep it hidden.)

The Kindle apps (for android for sure, iOS I dunno) get a new and different (Hidden) ID every time you install the App.
On the PC and Mac the hidden ID can be ferreted out by DRM removal software but I don't remember if it changes with every new install. I do know upgrading the PC version in-situ doesn't lead to a new hidden ID.

fratermus · 10-19-2012, 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by K. Molen

Sounds pretty cool. And those additional software packages are just single files, and not just hidden file packages like in OS X? If so, very cool indeed.

Yes, single files.

BTW, Hellmark has inspired me to look at this bottles thing in wine. I haven't really done much customizing there.

realracer2 · 10-19-2012, 08:11 AM

I just saw this post, I use the Chromium web browser on my Linux Ubuntu laptop and have the Amazon reader for it. I do not know if this is what you are looking for. I have no trouble reading Amazon books with it.

BillSmithBooks · 10-19-2012, 10:08 PM

I use Kindle for the Web using Puppy Linux as a live CD (no install) and the Firefox 7 pet (you have to use Firefox 7 or higher for Kindle for the web to run).

No permanent installation but the book is only available through your web browser, no file download.

And comics in the Kindle for the Web browers are terrible...as in literally unreadable since the "zoom in" function is virtually useless. But basic text only books work fine.

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
which software should I buy	mijaresr	Which one should I buy?	3	07-30-2012 09:14 AM
Amazon or Best Buy	luvscats	Amazon Kindle	15	03-14-2011 12:12 AM
New PDF conversion software at Amazon?	carld	Amazon Kindle	1	10-08-2008 01:09 PM
How many people buy mobile software?	hacker	Lounge	26	05-04-2006 07:40 AM

10-18-2012, 12:04 PM	#18
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 28,358 Karma: 203720150 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	Even if you somehow managed to purchase an ebook from Amazon without one of their devices or apps, you'd stand zero chance of converting it to ePub (unless it was already DRM-free of course). The device/app isn't only required for purchase ... any chance at removing the drm is predicated on having either a device or app installed.

10-18-2012, 12:22 PM	#19
Ntsimp Groupie Posts: 150 Karma: 1215642 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Utah Device: iriver Story HD, Android	I've never tried it, but I understand you can install Android on Linux. If that works, then you could install the Kindle app on the Android install.

10-18-2012, 01:09 PM	#20
K. Molen Addict Posts: 284 Karma: 4478866 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Toronto, ON Device: Kindle 3, iPad 3, Nexus 10, Nexus 5	It's been so long since I installed the Kindle app on my various computers that I don't remember how it works... When does one get the Kindle ID? Or whatever Amazon is calling their version of the PID... Is it during the install process, or do you get it when you sign up at Amazon and download the app? Because if it's the latter, then all you'd have to do is not install the app and then download the e-book manually from your purchase history.

10-19-2012, 08:11 AM	#25
realracer2 Junior Member Posts: 7 Karma: 300 Join Date: Dec 2009 Device: Kindle	I just saw this post, I use the Chromium web browser on my Linux Ubuntu laptop and have the Amazon reader for it. I do not know if this is what you are looking for. I have no trouble reading Amazon books with it.

10-19-2012, 10:08 PM	#26
BillSmithBooks Padawan Learner Posts: 243 Karma: 1085815 Join Date: May 2009 Location: www.OutlawGalaxy.com, Foothills of NY's Adirondack mountains Device: My PC...using Puppy Linux (FBReader, Calibre, Kindle Cloud Reader,	I use Kindle for the Web using Puppy Linux as a live CD (no install) and the Firefox 7 pet (you have to use Firefox 7 or higher for Kindle for the web to run). No permanent installation but the book is only available through your web browser, no file download. And comics in the Kindle for the Web browers are terrible...as in literally unreadable since the "zoom in" function is virtually useless. But basic text only books work fine.