Meet-Up! Southeastern USA MR Hoedown in October - Page 2

jerryleejr · 07-26-2008, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

I've changed the thread title to "Southeastern USA". Other countries have a "Southeast" too

. Eg, if you use the term in the UK you're referring to the London area.

Yeah but Harry how many other countries have hoedowns???

(I am almost 100% sure that is a Redneck thing)
JJ

zelda_pinwheel · 07-26-2008, 02:04 PM

and since you bring it up, what *is* a hoedown exactly ???

slayda · 07-26-2008, 02:11 PM

Although this does not properly describe this get-together, here is the wikipedia answer.

"A hoedown is a type of American folk dance or square dance in duple meter, and also the musical form associated with it.

In the 19th century the hoedown was mainly associated with black people, and was a dance in quick movement most likely related to the jig, reel or clog dance; however by the early 20th century the term was mainly associated with white Americans, particularly in rural or western parts of the country. According to the website "Streetswing", a hoe down was a virtuoso display of footwork, where a succession of dancers each tried to outdo the previous dancers. This meant that the last dancer was the best one. The audience cheered wildly. The 1941 film "Babes on Broadway" included a musical number called "Hoe down" (two words) with Mickey Rooney and Judy Garland performing. The implied meaning of "improvised jam" has found its way into other contexts. For example a rollerblading hoedown is a similar competitive display.

Possibly the earliest use of the word "hoe-down" in print was the book "The War in Kansas" (1856) by George Douglas Bewerton (1820 - 1901). Page 67 is browsable on-line. Referring to the negroes in Lexington, he writes "they were at it from morning till night; the fiddle and the banjo made constant music in the quarters, dancing was the rage, and a 'hoe-down' just the thing." The word breakdown is used in a similar way.

In contest fiddling, a hoedown is a tune in fast 2/4 time. In many contests, fiddlers are required to play a waltz, a hoedown, and a "tune of choice," which must not be a waltz or a hoedown (typically it is a jig or a schottische).

In modern Western square dance, a hoedown is a piece of music used for a patter call (a call that is spoken or chanted, rather than sung to the tune of a popular song), or the recording that contains this piece of music. In the early days of the Western square dance revival (the 1940s and early 1950s), most hoedowns were traditional fiddle tunes; since the late 1950s, recordings of simple chord progressions, with no discernible melody, have also been sold to callers under the name "hoedown." In the 1940s and early 1950s, the term "hoedown" was sometimes used to mean a call made up of parts of other calls (this usage was replaced by the term "hash"). "Hoedown" was, and occasionally still is, also used to mean a dance event jointly sponsored by several square dance clubs or by a federation of clubs.

The most famous hoedown in classical music is the section entitled Hoedown from the Rodeo ballet by Aaron Copland (1942). The most frequently heard version is from the Four Dance Episodes from Rodeo, which Copland extracted from the ballet shortly after its premiere; the dance episodes were first performed in 1943 by the Boston Pops conducted by Arthur Fiedler. Copland's Hoedown became even more famous through television advertisements by America's Beef Producers with the slogan "Beef, It's What's for Dinner". Hoedown has been covered by Emerson, Lake and Palmer on their album Trilogy and by Béla Fleck and the Flecktones on their albums Outbound and Live at the Quick. Additionally, the jazz musician, Oliver Nelson, performed a jazz-infused variation written by himself entitled, "Hoe-Down," on his album, The Blues and the Abstract Truth."

Patricia · 07-26-2008, 05:33 PM

Thanks, Slayda. I too was wondering what a hoedown was.

zelda_pinwheel · 07-26-2008, 05:46 PM

wow, i only just now had time to read the whole explanation. thanks for the thorough reply !!! i think y'all should take video of the dancing at this MR hoedown, which promises to be lively, and post it to youtube.

slayda · 07-26-2008, 05:52 PM

For those interested in hiking here is a link to a PDF set that can be printed into a 9 page (3x3) map of the De Soto hiking trails when taped together.

Below is a small preview version.

The Mississippi country boy definition (i.e. my definition) of a Hoedown is a social get-together with music, dancing, eating, sparking and general visiting. This one will be more eating and general visiting and probably no dancing (at least on my part), music or sparking (except with already determined couples).

zelda_pinwheel · 07-26-2008, 06:08 PM

"sparking" ?

BookishDreamer · 07-26-2008, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by zelda_pinwheel

"sparking" ?

Uh-oh slayda, you've opened a can of worms now!

Dreamer

slayda · 07-26-2008, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BookishDreamer

Uh-oh slayda, you've opened a can of worms now!

Dreamer

Hey, BD, I'm too old to be sparking. You take this one.

BookishDreamer · 07-26-2008, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zelda_pinwheel

"sparking" ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by slayda

Hey, BD, I'm too old to be sparking. You take this one.

In simple terms, "sparking" is wooing, courting, "making sparks fly", or just old-fashioned flirting.

Dreamer

zelda_pinwheel · 07-26-2008, 07:07 PM

i should have guessed that.

slayda · 07-26-2008, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BookishDreamer

In simple terms, "sparking" is wooing, courting, "making sparks fly", or just old-fashioned flirting.

Dreamer

Thanks BD. You did that much better than I could've.

jerryleejr · 07-27-2008, 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zelda_pinwheel

"sparking" ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by slayda

Hey, BD, I'm too old to be sparking. You take this one.

You are never to old!

Quote:

Originally Posted by slayda

Thanks BD. You did that much better than I could've.

Yeah Thanks BD the closest I would have come would have been the ing part and this is a family forum

JJ

llasram · 07-31-2008, 05:54 PM

I missed this somehow, but slayda pointed it out to me when I revealed the location of my secret base in another thread. I'm in Atlanta, GA, which makes it a biiiit far to take my 50cc scooter. Would anyone headed from that direction be up for car pooling?

-Marshall

pshrynk · 07-31-2008, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by llasram

I missed this somehow, but slayda pointed it out to me when I revealed the location of my secret base in another thread. I'm in Atlanta, GA, which makes it a biiiit far to take my 50cc scooter. Would anyone headed from that direction be up for car pooling?

-Marshall

But after you crest the Appalachians, it's all down hill from there!

07-26-2008, 05:52 PM	#21
slayda Retired & reading more! Posts: 2,764 Karma: 1884247 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: North Alabama, USA Device: Kindle 1, iPad Air 2, iPhone 6S+, Kobo Aura One	For those interested in hiking here is a link to a PDF set that can be printed into a 9 page (3x3) map of the De Soto hiking trails when taped together. Below is a small preview version. The Mississippi country boy definition (i.e. my definition) of a Hoedown is a social get-together with music, dancing, eating, sparking and general visiting. This one will be more eating and general visiting and probably no dancing (at least on my part), music or sparking (except with already determined couples). Attached Thumbnails

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07-26-2008, 02:04 PM	#17
zelda_pinwheel zeldinha zippy zeldissima Posts: 27,827 Karma: 921169 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Paris, France Device: eb1150 & is that a nook in her pocket, or she just happy to see you?	and since you bring it up, what is a hoedown exactly ???

07-26-2008, 02:11 PM	#18
slayda Retired & reading more! Posts: 2,764 Karma: 1884247 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: North Alabama, USA Device: Kindle 1, iPad Air 2, iPhone 6S+, Kobo Aura One	Although this does not properly describe this get-together, here is the wikipedia answer. "A hoedown is a type of American folk dance or square dance in duple meter, and also the musical form associated with it. In the 19th century the hoedown was mainly associated with black people, and was a dance in quick movement most likely related to the jig, reel or clog dance; however by the early 20th century the term was mainly associated with white Americans, particularly in rural or western parts of the country. According to the website "Streetswing", a hoe down was a virtuoso display of footwork, where a succession of dancers each tried to outdo the previous dancers. This meant that the last dancer was the best one. The audience cheered wildly. The 1941 film "Babes on Broadway" included a musical number called "Hoe down" (two words) with Mickey Rooney and Judy Garland performing. The implied meaning of "improvised jam" has found its way into other contexts. For example a rollerblading hoedown is a similar competitive display. Possibly the earliest use of the word "hoe-down" in print was the book "The War in Kansas" (1856) by George Douglas Bewerton (1820 - 1901). Page 67 is browsable on-line. Referring to the negroes in Lexington, he writes "they were at it from morning till night; the fiddle and the banjo made constant music in the quarters, dancing was the rage, and a 'hoe-down' just the thing." The word breakdown is used in a similar way. In contest fiddling, a hoedown is a tune in fast 2/4 time. In many contests, fiddlers are required to play a waltz, a hoedown, and a "tune of choice," which must not be a waltz or a hoedown (typically it is a jig or a schottische). In modern Western square dance, a hoedown is a piece of music used for a patter call (a call that is spoken or chanted, rather than sung to the tune of a popular song), or the recording that contains this piece of music. In the early days of the Western square dance revival (the 1940s and early 1950s), most hoedowns were traditional fiddle tunes; since the late 1950s, recordings of simple chord progressions, with no discernible melody, have also been sold to callers under the name "hoedown." In the 1940s and early 1950s, the term "hoedown" was sometimes used to mean a call made up of parts of other calls (this usage was replaced by the term "hash"). "Hoedown" was, and occasionally still is, also used to mean a dance event jointly sponsored by several square dance clubs or by a federation of clubs. The most famous hoedown in classical music is the section entitled Hoedown from the Rodeo ballet by Aaron Copland (1942). The most frequently heard version is from the Four Dance Episodes from Rodeo, which Copland extracted from the ballet shortly after its premiere; the dance episodes were first performed in 1943 by the Boston Pops conducted by Arthur Fiedler. Copland's Hoedown became even more famous through television advertisements by America's Beef Producers with the slogan "Beef, It's What's for Dinner". Hoedown has been covered by Emerson, Lake and Palmer on their album Trilogy and by Béla Fleck and the Flecktones on their albums Outbound and Live at the Quick. Additionally, the jazz musician, Oliver Nelson, performed a jazz-infused variation written by himself entitled, "Hoe-Down," on his album, The Blues and the Abstract Truth."

07-26-2008, 05:33 PM	#19
Patricia Reader Posts: 11,504 Karma: 8720163 Join Date: May 2007 Location: South Wales, UK Device: Sony PRS-500, PRS-505, Asus EEEpc 4G	Thanks, Slayda. I too was wondering what a hoedown was.

07-26-2008, 05:46 PM	#20
zelda_pinwheel zeldinha zippy zeldissima Posts: 27,827 Karma: 921169 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Paris, France Device: eb1150 & is that a nook in her pocket, or she just happy to see you?	wow, i only just now had time to read the whole explanation. thanks for the thorough reply !!! i think y'all should take video of the dancing at this MR hoedown, which promises to be lively, and post it to youtube.

07-26-2008, 06:08 PM	#22
zelda_pinwheel zeldinha zippy zeldissima Posts: 27,827 Karma: 921169 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Paris, France Device: eb1150 & is that a nook in her pocket, or she just happy to see you?	"sparking" ?

07-26-2008, 07:07 PM	#26
zelda_pinwheel zeldinha zippy zeldissima Posts: 27,827 Karma: 921169 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Paris, France Device: eb1150 & is that a nook in her pocket, or she just happy to see you?	i should have guessed that.

07-31-2008, 05:54 PM	#29
llasram Reticulator of Tharn Posts: 618 Karma: 400000 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: EST Device: Sony PRS-505	I missed this somehow, but slayda pointed it out to me when I revealed the location of my secret base in another thread. I'm in Atlanta, GA, which makes it a biiiit far to take my 50cc scooter. Would anyone headed from that direction be up for car pooling? -Marshall