10-05-2012, 07:39 AM | #61 | |
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Case in point: HarryT doesn't care that the laws he would like have serious downsides and wouldn't result in any more sales than he has now, all he cares about is punishing those that he feels have wronged him. Last edited by Ninjalawyer; 10-05-2012 at 07:46 AM. |
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What I care about is that someone is benefiting from the fruits of my labour without paying for it. If they want to use my software, they should pay for it (but they're very welcome to have my eBooks for free).
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10-05-2012, 07:44 AM | #63 | |
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I make my living as a mainframe programmer (see: Dinosaur). Right now I'm getting $46 USD an hour to do it. The work is specialized, I have no copyright, (by agreement) but nobody is going to steal it because it costs a million or so just to have the equipment to run the code. Just like the pre 1960 world of copyright. If I wrote code for $200 machines, easily transferable, lots of people would pirate it, (if it was any good). And there would be nothing economically effective I could do about it. That's today's reality. I won't ever be able to live on royalties, I've long since come to grips with that...(I use my excess profits to buy dividend paying stocks. Those are my royalties (sic))... Last edited by Greg Anos; 10-05-2012 at 07:48 AM. |
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They don't give a damn that if enough people took the same view that the software/book/music they enjoy would never have been made and future products likely won't be. That imo is why it's important that an effort is made to tackle piracy. |
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10-05-2012, 08:44 AM | #66 |
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I would suggest you acquaint yourself with the phrase "cutting off your nose to spite your face," before advocating for more restrictive laws just to appease your personal sense of fairness.
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I don't want more restrictive laws; I simply want current laws to be properly enforced. Current copyright protection is entirely adequate.
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10-05-2012, 08:51 AM | #68 | |
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The music and movies industry is doing amazingly well right now with the laws as they are and thanks to an internet that developed in a relatively unrestricted environment. If we're really being honest, do we think that they would be making millions or billions more if we imposed harsher laws on pirates? Last edited by Ninjalawyer; 10-05-2012 at 08:57 AM. Reason: Lack of coffee induced typos |
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I don't want more restrictive copyright laws; I want to see better methods of allowing people to actually receive the protection that the existing law is supposed to grant them. I trust that clarifies it.
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10-05-2012, 09:08 AM | #71 | |
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We can argue about the advantages pirates may bring in spreading word of your software to others who are honest and will/do buy it, but that's a discussion for another day :P The crux imo is that if those people are not and will never be a source of income, logic would say forget about them. Don't waste money pursuing them. Look after your real customers. Which does make a degree of sense. However, if nobody anywhere pursued any copyright infringer because they're never going to be a customer anyway. It sends the message to everyone who was borderline that it's ok to pirate, you'll never be caught, you'll never be fined etc Over time I believe (I could be wrong) more and more people would start to pirate because on the face of it, it's a victimless crime. Which I think is true, up until you hit a tipping point where there's insufficient people still buying and at that point, companies close/change their line of business and we end up with fewer and fewer choices of entertainment. I do think money should be spent going after those running pirate sites and providing the original copies of pirated material. Those people are likely a much much small group of the entire piracy community, so stopping those will have a greater impact on illegal downloads and the costs of ensuring sufficient evidence is gathered to avoid prosecuting innocent people can be justified. But as with drugs, you can't only ever tackle the high end dealers, sometimes you have to warn/caution the end buyers too. What you shouldn't do is focus entirely on the end users. Last edited by JoeD; 10-05-2012 at 09:12 AM. |
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10-05-2012, 09:15 AM | #72 |
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It can be upsetting to have your creations taken. When I was doing oil on canvas painting, I hated to part with a single one - forget money, sometimes they're like your babies... Still makes me cringe to remember a floral I loved so much get mounted in a frame that ruined the whole thing.
Then, in the 90s, I started designing web sites. It took a few years not to get indignant and want to complain when I saw my graphics or even whole designs copied. The web really did change things though, and after a few years of enjoying freeware, shareware, (look at calibre, for instance), and all the free sites (like this one!), ebooks (like Harry's contributions) ....it got easier to go with the flow. Still can irk at times, and leaches are ugly, but it usually balances out, and life's just too short to sweat the relatively small stuff. |
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Harry, I do understand your frustration. But how would you be able to identify those downloaders who need to pay their fair share to you (except from the one who is shouting it from the rooftops) unless further (non-copyright) legislation is passed that will seriously restrict our online privacy?
And then there is also the ''public opinion''. Why would so many people never steal a CD with your software from a shop but see no problems with downloading it for free? Because for most people downloading does not ''feel'' wrong, whereas stealing a CD does. That''s not easy to change. And consequently, politicians who would dare to propagate the ''better methods'' you want should fear for their career in the next elections. |
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I agree with the thread name
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